Jak (Jak 3) and Link (OoT) vs Ratchet (Deadlocked) and Sora (KH2)

Started by TheAuraAngel14 pages

glare

I hate all of you for this. I wasn't going to comment on this thread but since a lack of KH knowledge is prevalent, I'll just say a few things.

1. Sora would get frozen immediately if the ice arrows from OoT have been seen freezing volcanoes. He never really fights ice based enemies and I can only think of three, one being Vexen who fails at existing(if you got that, you've played KH2).
2. Sora deflects and or dodges said arrow as his keyblade reflects any projectile, like fireballs, icicles, lasers, etc. Even without that, said reflega should work well too. And yeah, he is way faster than it via teleport and such.
3. As far as the thread goes, if Ratchet can really brainwash, team 2 takes it. I don't think Link can beat all 3 of them. But again, I honestly could less about this thread. He only put Sora in here for me to defend him and quite frankly, I don't feel like it.

Mewtwo uses embargo and TK's everyone into the sun.

But Sora cannot teleport. 😬

Aura's got it done.

Moo yeah, he can.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
glare

I hate all of you for this. I wasn't going to comment on this thread but since a lack of KH knowledge is prevalent, I'll just say a few things.

1. Sora would get frozen immediately if the ice arrows from OoT have been seen freezing volcanoes. He never really fights ice based enemies and I can only think of three, one being Vexen who fails at existing(if you got that, you've played KH2).
2. Sora deflects and or dodges said arrow as his keyblade reflects any projectile, like fireballs, icicles, lasers, etc. Even without that, said reflega should work well too. And yeah, he is way faster than it via teleport and such.
3. As far as the thread goes, if Ratchet can really brainwash, team 2 takes it. I don't think Link can beat all 3 of them. But again, I honestly could less about this thread. He only put Sora in here for me to defend him and quite frankly, I don't feel like it.

Mewtwo uses embargo and TK's everyone into the sun.

Deadlocked Ratchet has it harder when it comes to brainwashing.
Ratchet from Up your Arsenal has it much easier, and would solo the match. As would Ratchet from Going Commando.

No, he can't.

YouTube video
Does at 1:10 and 2:30.

Yeah, seen it before. Played through the game at least 6 times. And he's taking advantage of Xigbar's powers most likely. He doesn't do it at any other points in the game. Not to mention we can't even call it a teleport based on the name "Warp Snipe."

Also, Link has a teleport, too. 😐

Then you should of know this by now. The name or the reaction is warp snipe, in reference to what its reacting to so that means he didn't teleport? If you want to call it warping you can.
And how exactly is he 'taking advantage of Xigbar's powers' to make himself tele...warp instantaneously?

Edit: Links isnt as good, especially combat wise. And Sora has a large speed advantage.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Feats?

teleports at 0:14
YouTube video

and again at 1:09
YouTube video

Couldn't find a cutscene with him teleporting, only gameplay, but I remember you saying in another thread that gameplay fights like these are cannon because you have to do it in order to beat the game. 😛

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Ah, Sora has not displayed an ability to block the effects of being frozen. He can block the icicle projectiles, but the one attack that actually freezes him, the ice breath, he can't. Reflega also has a rather short casting time and a duration to match.

I'd bet an Ice Arrow hits the Keyblade and freezes it over.

Vexen still has his "freeze" attack when a blizzard freezes Sora, immobilizing Sora while Vexen gains data, but it can be stopped by a Reaction Command.
1:48
YouTube video

no... no it doesn't

It's already been concluded an ice arrow will kill Sora, "it deflects anything" is a no limit fallacy, mind control requires the Ratchet hit Jak, and Link'sgonna be around with his mirror shield, waiting melee-based-Sora out.

Originally posted by BloodRain

Omega Infecto-Bomb is a better choice imo. Can hit both at once, brainwashes and drains health.
I thought of a new strategy... Sora uses Magnega.... Ratchet hits them with this. 😛

GJ on pulling Link into melee range. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
GJ on pulling Link into melee range. 😐

Magnet makes the foes unable to move. 😐

Wait, wut?

IF the arrow hits him he'd freeze and break out like in the clip above. But it'll have to get past Sora's speed and reactions blocking it or Reflect.

Magnet doesn't pull him into range, it holds him helpless in the air not letting him move.

Vexen's ice is a joke compared to the ice arrows, and I do not think Final Mix is considered canon in those fights. Vexen was canonically defeated by Roxas. Sora never touched him.

Ah, see, now here is a problem. Warp snipe is a teleport based on name, and Jump is a teleport based on looks. Decide whether the name matters or not.

Personally I don't think either are teleports, they are just Sora moving really fast or possibly taking advantage of Xigbar's powers. He's proven he can cover short distances quickly already, and without a reaction command with a name like "Move really ****in' fast."

IF the arrow hits him he'd freeze and break out like in the clip above. But it'll have to get past Sora's speed and reactions blocking it or Reflect.
Sora could not block or reflect the inferior ice breath, he has no feats to suggest he could survive an ice arrow, it would kill him. 😐

Magnet doesn't pull him into range, it holds him helpless in the air not letting him move.
Meh, feats?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's already been concluded an ice arrow will kill Sora, "it deflects anything" is a no limit fallacy, mind control requires the Ratchet hit Jak, and Link'sgonna be around with his mirror shield, waiting melee-based-Sora out.

I doubt it will... he's been frozen b4 and turned out just fine.(Vexan fight) BallodRaine also proved the Ice Titan's ice breath to be better than the ice arrow in my opinion. froze horses and lava... should've thought about the movie yesterday, it just didn't come to mind. He also proved that that Hades's fire is > than lava. Sora has no problem against temp. please find a better argument. Magnega will let Ratchet hit the both with the brainwash mod, and I don't see how deensive magic is a no limit fallacy.😬

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Vexen's ice is a joke compared to the ice arrows, and I do not think Final Mix is considered canon in those fights. Vexen was canonically defeated by Roxas. Sora never touched him.

Axel. You mean Axel was defeated by Roxas and Sora never fought him(unless data bosses count). Sora beat the every lasting shit out of Vexen and then Axel killed him. Roxas never touched Vexen.