Jak (Jak 3) and Link (OoT) vs Ratchet (Deadlocked) and Sora (KH2)

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
YouTube video gxdMz2d7Fyg&feature=relatedthese good enough? It's gameplay, yes, but I don't remember if there's an actual cutscene with him showing resistance. Either way, he's been up against temperature change before w/o it posing to much of a problem.

Link's ice arrows can freeze an active volcano solid, instantly solidifying a large lava plume at it's top and stuff. That's a lot scarrier than what I saw from the ice titan, and we can't even know if the titan ever hit him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nah. Watching both videos, the ice titan's most powerful cold-related attack only left a thin sheet of ice on the ground, Sora couldn't deflect that one, and I saw nothing impressive in terms of temperature attacks in the second video, but to be fair, did not konw what to look for.

Link's ice arrows can freeze an active volcano solid, instantly solidifying a large lava plume at it's top and stuff. That's a lot scarrier than what I saw from the ice titan, and we can't even know if the titan ever hit him.

YouTube videoThis guy was a beast, he didn't even heal 😄

Axel's one of the first enemies 😛 and I can't recall him having many feats. 😐

But yeah, if Sora can't stop that Ice Titan's attack, I'm sorry to say an ice arrow will kill him. That's not actually the method I'd advocate for Link to use in this fight, but it'd work. Instantly freezing a volcano is pretty high powered magic. But eh, maybe Aura knows something, ask him. 😛

So...what about the other two doohickeys in this fight? 😬

Yeah, Aura is more of a KH fan than I am, and his memory is just scary. Axel is one of the first enemies for Roxas, if I remember correctly, and I don't believe Sora fight him until towards the end of the game. Also, found more ice related fights... what about these? R3MWjy2puX4&feature=related
YouTube video

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
So...what about the other two doohickeys in this fight? 😬

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I called attention to them, but no one heeded it. @_@

Sorry to say, but I do not know of anything in KH known to be as cold as an Ice Arrow of Link's.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Sorry to say, but I do not know of anything in KH known to be as cold as an Ice Arrow of Link's.

K, having watched most of the videos:

I'd like to know if any of these enemies have feats outside of the fights they appear in to say how powerful their cold attacks are?

Aside from that, the guys with the guitars could freeze Sora solid with iceballs, but these same attacks had no visible effect on the environment. The ice spikes were kool, and kinda big, but poking someone with an iceicle will kill them a lot faster through blood loss than freezing them to death.

The second fight shows something more telling. The ice attack here can create ice crystals on the ground larger than the titans thin slick, which says it's probably colder or more generally powerful. Sora can swing these guys on his keyblade, but can be closer to fire for longer maounts of time without burning irl, so meh..

Compared to freezing a volcano in a single shot? Meeeeeh.... 😬

Mine is fairly good, KH2 is much better as far as Sora feats go than KH1. There just isn't really anything specified. Cut scenes in both games are pretty limited.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
K, having watched most of the videos:

I'd like to know if any of these enemies have feats outside of the fights they appear in to say how powerful their cold attacks are?

Aside from that, the guys with the guitars could freeze Sora solid with iceballs, but these same attacks had no visible effect on the environment. The ice spikes were kool, and kinda big, but poking someone with an iceicle will kill them a lot faster through blood loss than freezing them to death.

The second fight shows something more telling. The ice attack hear can create ice crystals on the ground larger than the titans thin slick, which says it's probably colder or more generally powerful. Sora can swing these guys on his keyblade, but can be closer to fire for longer maounts of time without burning irl, so meh..

Compared to freezing a volcano in a single shot? Meeeeeh.... 😬

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Mine is fairly good, KH2 is much better as far as Sora feats go than KH1. There just isn't really anything specified. Cut scenes in both games are pretty limited.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Demyx, the guy with the sitar, is considered to be one of the weakest in Organization 13, and most of his attacks were water based, some are ice, but as far as feats go, idk. He doesn't show up much in the games after Sora beats him. As far as the rest goes, I agree, and again, thats my problem. I have to compare it to a volcano, and I don't remember if Sora ever been shown in one. The closest I can remember is when he fights Axel, because of how he sets the ground on fire. It kinda looks volcanic. Either way, I still don't think an arrow would be fast enough to hit Sora. edit: Also, as far as the Double Lords showing feats outside of the fight, I doubt it. I think thats the only time you fight them, and I don't remember if they were in a cut scene, or if they just spawned.

The strongest ice attack you showed me created ice crystals about the size of Sora's head in what didn't look to be a heated environment.

Link's ice arrow flash froze an active volcano, incluing the lava plume much larger than the ice crystals created by the most powerful ice spell shown.

Also, Link's super strength behind his bow = extremely high arrow speed. Escape velocity isn't too slow. 😛

Still, this isn't the method I'd advise. I'm just saying it's better than a light arrow.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Well, lemme put it this way:

The strongest ice attack you showed me created ice crystals about the size of Sora's head in what didn't look to be a heated environment.

Link's ice arrow flash froze [b]an active volcano, incluing the lava plume much larger than the ice crystals created by the most powerful ice spell shown.

Also, Link's super strength behind his bow = extremely high arrow speed. Escape velocity isn't too slow. 😛

Still, this isn't the method I'd advise. I'm just saying it's better than a light arrow. [/B]

Link's strength would make it faster than a regular arrow, but it's still hard to say if it would be faster than a bullet, or lasers, for that matter. I'll let someone else argue if hey were "real lasers", or not, plz don't ask me to. As far as I care, a laser is a laser, and putting one in a video game that is as accurate as a "real laser" is just dumb, mostly because you wouldn't be able to see it, and it would just confuse the ppl playing the game. 😬

It is a better method than a light arrow. From what I remember, Ratchet's personality would be considered more evil than Sora's. I just still refuse that it would work. Sora isn't so weak as to be taken out by a single arrow, even if it did hit him, and I highly doubt it would. He is very skilled at evasion, and deflecting attacks. He could just use Reflectga....

Reflectga vs. Mirror Shield, only one doesn't run out of power.

Reflega is a powerful attack that shields Sora from an attack, and then unleashes a spray of light around the dome that does damage equal to the enemy's attack power to anything hit by the light. In fact all attacks can be reflected, with correct timing.
took from KH wiki...

It's > than the mirror shield because it protects him from all sides, and is used instantly... Link has to aim the shield at what he wants to reflect, but yes, it requiring magic to use is a disadvantage.

Ratchet brainwashes Link (or Jak), and they kill each other; thus, Sora and Ratchet win.

Originally posted by iChaos
Ratchet brainwashes Link (or Jak), and they kill each other; thus, Sora and Ratchet win.