Silver Surfer the best Herald? Explain how he wins each Battle in detail

Originally posted by lightyeargee
You know I don't give two shits what galan said right there right? If you put tand a against ares with the god wave, they would get wreckd.They couldn't nearly be on par since surfer did not use his own power. He was just a conduit. And he shielded no one from t and a. And t and a have not nearly the comparible power to te godwave. So no. They are not comparible at all. When surfer can push against a well fed galactus while shielding everyone from his energies,then he'd have a comparible feat.

Well one of you strives for impartiality and one of you thinks that nvr was a good poster...

How to choose, how to choose.... 😂

Originally posted by lightyeargee
You know I don't give two shits what galan said right there right? If you put tand a against ares with the god wave, they would get wreckd.They couldn't nearly be on par since surfer did not use his own power. He was just a conduit. And he shielded no one from t and a. And t and a have not nearly the comparible power to te godwave. So no. They are not comparible at all. When surfer can push against a well fed galactus while shielding everyone from his energies,then he'd have a comparible feat.

TnA don't have to have comparable energy to the Godwave. If you used your mind, you'd realize this is the case. The Crunch's energy's are the one's being compare to the Godwave.

Just had to say it, because your posts are dead wrong.

Originally posted by darthgoober

Well one of you strives for impartiality and one of you thinks that nvr was a good poster...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hmm... believe you about the impressiveness of Takion's feat or believe Galan007...

Well one of you strives for impartiality and one of you thinks that nvr was a good poster...

How to choose, how to choose.... 😂

Originally posted by biensalsa
If you show me I concede

He is immune to electricity? does Thor lighting counts as electricity?

Does Planet Hulk disk counts as electricity?

What about Storm in Silver Surfer 85? He seemed affected by it

But you'd have to be off-your-rocker crazy if you're going to suggest that generating electricity or lightning is enough to block out Surfer's ability to absorb ambient energy to convert into his Power Cosmic. That's like arguing that Hulk being thrown into a raging thunder cloud will immediately block him from gamma amping and render him human. Or arguing that Superman flying through a thunder cloud will completely block him from absorbing solar energy and depower him. After all, the air inside that raging thundercloud is going through serious ionization... amirite?

No. Just no. Whatever Superman was doing in those scans with his heat vision (a one-off feat I've never seen repleated)... it wasn't generic real science ionization. Your questions are off-point. Surfer's invulnerability/vulnerability to lightning/electricity is wholly inconsequential.

Originally posted by Blanket
Surfer used his own power to control an immeasurable power source, while weakened.
Surfer shielded himself from the Crunch's energies.

TnA don't have to have comparable energy to the Godwave. If you used your mind, you'd realize this is the case. The Crunch's energy's are the one's being compare to the Godwave.

Just had to say it, because your posts are dead wrong.

Originally posted by Starscream M
dood...trolling's not kewl

Originally posted by Starscream M
again, BP strongarming surfer wasn't a low strength showing for surfer as much as to show that surfer shares anatomical weaknesses that BP can skillfully exploit. it wasn't like bp beat surfer in arm wrestling.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
the crunch wasn't a controlled force being willed. You fail. He channeled an unquanitfied amount of their kryptonite. If they had been in ontrol of the crunch and using it in an offensive manner, you might have a case. You don't.

He channelled an infinite power source and shielded himself from it (seeing as it destroys things it touches) at the time while being weakened.
That's the feat. TnA shouldn't enter the equation unless you completely misunderstand the reference... which you do.

"King Kandy said:

SS is clearly immune to electricity but you think some electrical imbalance is going to do anything?"

The whole point is that YES, it seems electricity plays a number on SS

Also Blood and Thunder

Warrior Madness only amps physical strength, not energy based attacks for Thor. They have actually said this in the past.

So Thor's Thunder was not amped, His physical strength was but not his energy based attacks.

"Yeah... he realized Thor was a good guy so he shouldn't be trying to take him out, what's your point? He still came out ahead in the fight."

Thor was holding back Surfer was not and He was amped and yet He admits his power is less than that of Mjolnir.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
galan also went on to omment that the godwave was far more powerful at the time ares had it then when it powered every single god and superbeing. So you think t an a could power every single god in the cosmos let alone every super being? And then be more powerful than that? GalanLs staement about surfer's feat dosnt even stand up to his own statement about the godwave itself.and surfer's feat while impressive isn't what you make it out to be. It is tantemount to jimmy olsen picking up a krytonite rock and beating supermans ass. The runch energy was their weakness. Fat deal. Push them back with his own power and maybe shield galactus from their power at the same time and then surfer might have a comparible feat. Still t and a aren't nearly as powerful as the full might of an amped godwave.

Originally posted by Blanket
If you think being controlled by a sentient being is the only way things can be comparable to that, then well... I'm not surprised considering your posts.

He channelled an infinite power source and shielded himself from it (seeing as it destroys things it touches) at the time while being weakened.
That's the feat. TnA shouldn't enter the equation unless you completely misunderstand the reference... which you do.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Warrior Madness only amps physical strength, not energy based attacks for Thor. They have actually said this in the past.

So Thor's Thunder was not amped, His physical strength was but not his energy based attacks.

"Yeah... he realized Thor was a good guy so he shouldn't be trying to take him out, what's your point? He still came out ahead in the fight."

Thor was holding back Surfer was not and He was amped and yet He admits his power is less than that of Mjolnir.

Nope that's not what he said. And he still came out ahead in the fight.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Again if I'm choosing between you and Galan for a reasonable interpretation of events involving the New Gods, I'll side with Galan. Others are free to disagree and accept your interpretation as the more reasonable one, but I'll stick the guy I consider an expert on the topic.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is idiotic. You're conflating the idea of comic science ionization with standard lightning/electricity. Yes, ionization is a pre-requisite to lightning bolts.

But you'd have to be off-your-rocker crazy if you're going to suggest that generating electricity or lightning is enough to block out Surfer's ability to absorb ambient energy to convert into his Power Cosmic. That's like arguing that Hulk being thrown into a raging thunder cloud will immediately block him from gamma amping and render him human. Or arguing that Superman flying through a thunder cloud will completely block him from absorbing solar energy and depower him. After all, the air inside that raging thundercloud is going through serious ionization... amirite?

No. Just no. Whatever Superman was doing in those scans with his heat vision (a one-off feat I've never seen repleated)... it wasn't generic real science ionization. Your questions are off-point. Surfer's invulnerability/vulnerability to lightning/electricity is wholly inconsequential.

So yes now it comes to call the feat "one shot", He has done it in another time in the Byrne era

The ionization changes the molecules arround, this affects at a molecular level thus making it feasible to accomplish such a thing. Just because Surfer is on your eyes invincible does not means He cannot be defeated

Originally posted by lightyeargee
he did not channel an infinite amount of energy. He tapped an infinite source to use their weakness. Feat is not comparible.

The weakness part is irrelevant... like I've said in everyone of my posts to you.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Just because Surfer is on your eyes

Originally posted by darthgoober
And was Surfer fresh when he was tagged with lightning, or had he already suffered a physical beating from an amped Thor?

Nope that's not what he said. And he still came out ahead in the fight.

So are you saying that If someone physically beats Surfer (which is not hard, because He seems to have a glass jaw) and then attacks him with electricity. He can be defeated?

Originally posted by biensalsa
So yes now it comes to call the feat "one shot", He has done it in another time in the Byrne era

The ionization changes the molecules arround, this affects at a molecular level thus making it feasible to accomplish such a thing. Just because Surfer is on your eyes invincible does not means He cannot be defeated

Yeah, it's feasible and not altogether completely dumb for a comic book author to think that intense "ionization" could prevent energy from being absorbed. But conflating that comic book notion of ionization and assuming all magnitudes of electricity and lightning can achieve the same effect is asinine. Stop taking things so literally.

I don't need to prove Surfer is completely immune to electricity or lightning to argue that technique probably wouldn't work 1/100 times. If you want to get literal stupid, Surfer has stood inside stars before. You do know that stars are made of superheated plasma which is intensely ionized right? Is Surfer's Power Cosmic blocked when he flies or sits inside stars? No.

So knock it off with the electricity/lightning blocks Surfer's Power Cosmic argument.

Originally posted by biensalsa
So are you saying that If someone physically beats Surfer (which is not hard, because He seems to have a glass jaw) and then attacks him with electricity. He can be defeated?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I don't need to prove Surfer is completely immune to electricity or lightning to argue that technique probably wouldn't work 1/100 times. If you want to get literal stupid, Surfer has stood inside stars before. You do know that stars are made of superheated plasma which is intensely ionized right? Is Surfer's Power Cosmic blocked when he flies or sits inside stars? No.

as being inside a star...the pressure is gazillion tons of force...far more than even thanos or hulk could exert

yeah, don't bring real science