Originally posted by lightyeargee
Reading this nvrs old post,he was pretty much rite. DS did have different bodies and did have a true form. He was also ridiculed for saying that the IH was not multiversal, that lassic beyonder was not more powerful than LT, etc he wasn't that bad. The only thing he had wrong was that he thought DS could beat Odin.
Chek out the Number 5:
http://www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/
Originally posted by lightyeargee
who is Trick? Haven't seen anyposters named Trick.
Anyway, did you want to talk anymore about Surfer and Henshaw(or most any of his other opponents for that matter) or has this thread already served it's purpose IYO?
Originally posted by darthgooberas far as henshaw goes, I am pretty sure DS destroyed Henshaw's body and trapped his soul and mind at the same time. I haven't seen surfer destroy something fully that can with stand galaxy busting energy. Let alone trap a mind,soul at once.
He was the guy who actually believed the crap nvr would spew when nvr would start making stuff or misrepresenting feats. Haven't seen him in a while now though...Anyway, did you want to talk anymore about Surfer and Henshaw(or most any of his other opponents for that matter) or has this thread already served it's purpose IYO?
Originally posted by lightyeargee
as far as henshaw goes, I am pretty sure DS destroyed Henshaw's body and trapped his soul and mind at the same time. I haven't seen surfer destroy something fully that can with stand galaxy busting energy. Let alone trap a mind,soul at once.
Originally posted by darthgooberDS blew his body to nothing.No transmuting. He trapper his soul in some sphere. I don't know if surfer could do that. Henshaw would likely manipulate surfer's board into a new body. Now that would be some shit.
Pretty sure as in "I'm guessing" or pretty sure as in "I saw it printed in a comic", because from what I remember he just transmuted the guy(been a while since I read HP though so I guess I could be wrong)?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Pretty sure as in "I'm guessing" or pretty sure as in "I saw it printed in a comic", because from what I remember he just transmuted the guy(been a while since I read HP though so I guess I could be wrong)?
Here are the scans (thanks KM):
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-44.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-45.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-03-02.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-03-03.jpg
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman confirmed to Darkseid that the last time he had seen Henshaw destroyed he knew that his consiousness was still traveling through space. When Darkseid hit him with the OE Superman was actually horrified because it was as if Henshaw had been completely erased. In truth he trapped the Cyborg in a tiny metal ball.Here are the scans (thanks KM):
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-44.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-45.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-03-02.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-03-03.jpg
Originally posted by lightyeargee
DS blew his body to nothing.No transmuting. He trapper his soul in some sphere. I don't know if surfer could do that. Henshaw would likely manipulate surfer's board into a new body. Now that would be some shit.
And no, he wouldn't be able to take over Surfer's board. Not only is it composed of solidified cosmic energy rather than metal, it's been repeatedly established that Surfer's board is part of him. At best(assuming that Borg can take control of solidified cosmic energy in the first place) we're talking about a contest of wills, and I'd be willing to bet that Surfer's feats in that department trump Borgs.
Originally posted by lightyeargeei loooove how you know EXACTLY what goob is referring to from as least information as possible. shocklaugh
Reading this nvrs old post,he was pretty much rite. DS did have different bodies and did have a true form. He was also ridiculed for saying that the IH was not multiversal, that lassic beyonder was not more powerful than LT, etc he wasn't that bad. The only thing he had wrong was that he thought DS could beat Odin.
Originally posted by Mindsetlol,is that talking in the what.....4th person? laughcry
I love when nvr talks about how he was right while pretending not to be nvr.
Originally posted by darthgooberIn this instance, surfer has to get past Borg's rings. Ten of them.that he can ontinually make on the fly.Borg is a beast on manipulation.took ganthet hours to make one GL ring. Borg makes Q rings on the fly. Also borg manipulated source wall. Something not even abstracts and sky fathers ould do. His will is uber and so is his ability to manipulaye solid energy.which is what the source wall is. Plus DS blasted Borg when he was fully rested and back to full power.Surfer Won't have that luxury.
Ah thanks. I remembered the visuals on the blast and that Borg ended up as a small ball, but the details were still fuzzy.So his spirit/soul/consciousness is vulnerable to manipulation then? In that case Surfer should be able to pull of the feat since he's manipulated both psychic and spiritual energy on panel and trapped Legacy mind, soul, and all inside his Surfboard before. That's not to say it'd be an easy task for him but it should be well within his abilities(especially if he weakens Borg first).
And no, he wouldn't be able to take over Surfer's board. Not only is it composed of solidified cosmic energy rather than metal, it's been repeatedly established that Surfer's board is part of him. At best(assuming that Borg can take control of solidified cosmic energy in the first place) we're talking about a contest of wills, and I'd be willing to bet that Surfer's feats in that department trump Borgs.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
In this instance, surfer has to get past Borg's rings. Ten of them.that he can ontinually make on the fly.Borg is a beast on manipulation.took ganthet hours to make one GL ring. Borg makes Q rings on the fly. Also borg manipulated source wall. Something not even abstracts and sky fathers ould do. His will is uber and so is his ability to manipulaye solid energy.which is what the source wall is. Plus DS blasted Borg when he was fully rested and back to full power.Surfer Won't have that luxury.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Where is his feats of resisting having the energy drained from his rings? And it's not like Surfer has to store the energy of all 10 rings and then just sit on it(though in GL/Surfer crossover he was able to absorb quite a bit of GL energy, all the power from the Central Battery if I'm remembering right), the best part about draining your opponent in the manner that Surfer does is that you then have energy other than your own avalible for use in the fight. Borgs own energies would amp Surfer's blasts and forcefields, amp his strength, and be avalible for him to heal himself with all while Borg was getting weaker from the drain. It's not nearly as uber as you're making it out to be. Put it this way, did Henshaw get trapped in the Source Wall and then immediately get away via transmutation/transference, or did he stay trapped long enough to constitute a win on the forum? I mean it's not as if the nature of his powers makes him completely immune to transmutation or DS wouldn't have been able to transmute him. As for Henshaw trapping Surfer in his ring, if Surfer can travel to any dimension he's ever been to pretty much at will and escape from something like the Soul World, I just don't see him getting trapped in a power ring.And if the draining thing is too much for you to buy(as is often the case when people aren't familiar enough with Surfer)... well Norrin could just pull a temporal BFR for another easy win.
Originally posted by darthgooberEach ring has herald lvl power. So show me surfer draining ten heralds at one time to complete dryness,while also fighting. The rings aren't borgs only options. He'd be using them in conjuntion with all of his other powers. I also believe the soirce wall to be greater than surfer's baod. Ant see it trapping DS or promethian giants.
Shouldn't be too much of a problem unless Henshaw has some decent resistance feats I'm unaware of. Again, did Borg get trapped in the Source Wall and immediately escape, or was he trapped there long enough to constitute a win on the Forum? Would you like to do a feat for feat comparison of willpower between the two? And did you miss what I said earlier about the benefits of draining...
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Each ring has herald lvl power. So show me surfer draining ten heralds at one time to complete dryness,while also fighting. The rings aren't borgs only options. He'd be using them in conjuntion with all of his other powers. I also believe the soirce wall to be greater than surfer's baod. Ant see it trapping DS or promethian giants.
1. Does Henshaw have some decent resistance feats against draining and/or transmutation that I'm unaware of?
2. Did Borg immediately escape the Source Wall, or was he trapped long enough to constitute a forum win?
3. Does Henshaw have any feats that show his will to be supperior to what Surfer's shown in willpower?
I love how Surfer fans put him on Galactus level with all of his feats and yet they seem to forget that He is only 1% of REGULAR GALACTUS and also disregard completelly that according to the creator Thor > SS. Based on all this all of the surfer feats should be cut in half and PLACED BELOW ANY OF THOSE OF THOR.
I just don't get it, writters seem to completelly forget the power hierarchy stablished by the creator of the Marvel Universe. Also completelly insane How SS can survive the crushing force of a black hole but get KO by Thor's blows 😄
People claim that Hulk fans are the worst, but seriously We should take a look at the SS camp.
Yes He is powerful, but not more powerful than THOR According to the CREATOR which should be gospel.
Originally posted by biensalsa
I love how Surfer fans put him on Galactus level with all of his feats and yet they seem to forget that He is only 1% of REGULAR GALACTUS and also disregard completelly that according to the creator Thor > SS. Based on all this all of the surfer feats should be cut in half and PLACED BELOW ANY OF THOSE OF THOR.I just don't get it, writters seem to completelly forget the power hierarchy stablished by the creator of the Marvel Universe. Also completelly insane How SS can survive the crushing force of a black hole but get KO by Thor's blows 😄
People claim that Hulk fans are the worst, but seriously We should take a look at the SS camp.
Yes He is powerful, but not more powerful than THOR According to the CREATOR which should be gospel.
And lol at the rest. You're probably one of those that thinks that Darkseid is on Galactus's level because of Kirby's original intention, and since Thanos's creator intended him to be the equivelent of Darkseid, it must mean that Thanos was on Galactus's level even BEFORE his upgrades... right? And I suppose we should toss anything from Supes that goes beyond what HIS creators envisioned also... 😉
lightyear if you think nvr has some brains I think reading this thread should show how wrong you are (remember the good times darth?)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=434957&pagenumber=1
Originally posted by biensalsa
I love how Surfer fans put him on Galactus level with all of his feats and yet they seem to forget that He is only 1% of REGULAR GALACTUS and also disregard completelly that according to the creator Thor > SS. Based on all this all of the surfer feats should be cut in half and PLACED BELOW ANY OF THOSE OF THOR.I just don't get it, writters seem to completelly forget the power hierarchy stablished by the creator of the Marvel Universe. Also completelly insane How SS can survive the crushing force of a black hole but get KO by Thor's blows 😄
People claim that Hulk fans are the worst, but seriously We should take a look at the SS camp.
Yes He is powerful, but not more powerful than THOR According to the CREATOR which should be gospel.
