Silver Surfer the best Herald? Explain how he wins each Battle in detail

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Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
Long way of saying both sides weren't very sure of their arguments so they chickened out. mmm
Maybe both camps were satisfied that Superman clearly loses to the two, so who cares? excellent

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Maybe both camps were satisfied that Superman clearly loses to the two, so who cares? excellent
Superman does very well even against multiple opponents, so I'm not so sure about that. sneer

^ Touch, good sir. Touche. uhuh

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh back in the day nvr as bad/worse than Quan. He's improved a bit since he started socking, but two or three years ago...

Miss me? 😆

Reading this nvrs old post,he was pretty much rite. DS did have different bodies and did have a true form. He was also ridiculed for saying that the IH was not multiversal, that lassic beyonder was not more powerful than LT, etc he wasn't that bad. The only thing he had wrong was that he thought DS could beat Odin.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Reading this nvrs old post,he was pretty much rite. DS did have different bodies and did have a true form. He was also ridiculed for saying that the IH was not multiversal, that lassic beyonder was not more powerful than LT, etc he wasn't that bad. The only thing he had wrong was that he thought DS could beat Odin.

No "he" wasn't "right". I don't think anyone ever said that DS didn't have a true form, they said nvr was stupid because he insisted that everyone debate a true form that had never actually been seen. If what I heard about ALL of DS's past appearances being rectonned into avatar's he was especially wrong because he only wanted to debate showings from Pre-Crisis and the Great Darkness Saga, but since those appearances would ALSO be Avatars(with the possible exception of the GDS, but that's an alternate timeline and not valid under forum rules anyway) those showings are no more relevant than his newer appearances since they were ALL avatars.

He was also wrong about Radion being rectonned out of existence in the DC Universe(the moron thought it didn't exist at all in anymore just because they hadn't mentioned it in a while), that Supes survived the OE because of the Source, that DS's avatar's were hands down more powerful than Thanos, and any number of other things. And in case you didn't notice, nvr didn't just say that DS could beat Odin he also claimed that DS was somewhere on par with Galactus.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No "he" wasn't "right". I don't think anyone ever said that DS didn't have a true form, they said nvr was stupid because he insisted that everyone debate a true form that had never actually been seen. If what I heard about ALL of DS's past appearances being rectonned into avatar's he was especially wrong because he only wanted to debate showings from Pre-Crisis and the Great Darkness Saga, but since those appearances would ALSO be Avatars(with the possible exception of the GDS, but that's an alternate timeline and not valid under forum rules anyway) those showings are no more relevant than his newer appearances since they were ALL avatars.

He was also wrong about Radion being rectonned out of existence in the DC Universe(the moron thought it didn't exist at all in anymore just because they hadn't mentioned it in a while), that Supes survived the OE because of the Source, that DS's avatar's were hands down more powerful than Thanos, and any number of other things. And in case you didn't notice, nvr didn't just say that DS could beat Odin he also claimed that DS was somewhere on par with Galactus.

I didn't get that at all from his post. He never said he read gds. Didn't see anything about avatars. That doesn't make sense anyway. If DS had a true form, how could you argue DS anyway? Oh and grant morrison retro retconned radion back into continuity. He also retro retconned DS so that no one had ever seen the Gods true forms. Nvr was right.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman does very well even against multiple opponents, so I'm not so sure about that. sneer

you serious? I can't tell.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Silver Surfer the best Herald? Explain how he wins each Battle in detail

Originally posted by Ambient
whatever the case those energies still drainable..

Coming from Hal, debatable. Same with Kyle, since they have shown resitance in the past.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
I didn't get that at all from his post. He never said he read gds. Didn't see anything about avatars. That doesn't make sense anyway. If DS had a true form, how could you argue DS anyway? Oh and grant morrison retro retconned radion back into continuity. He also retro retconned DS so that no one had ever seen the Gods true forms. Nvr was right.

Well then you didn't look close enough. That's what we tried to tell him, not enough info on DS's true form to argue, the idiot just didn't get it though. If Radion was never actually rectonned out of existence, you can't say that it was rectonned back into existence, yet another point that dumbass just can't seem to grasp. Again, no one said that the New Gods didn't have true forms, they said that the true forms couldn't be debated without evidence. So yeah, nvr was pretty much nvr right unless he was latching onto an arguement that one of our better/more reasonable posters put forth first. And even then he would try to twist it into something dumb.

But we seem to have drifted off topic now, if you want to rehash some of nvrhadaclue's arguements though feel free to bump the appropriate threads.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well then you didn't look close enough. That's what we tried to tell him, not enough info on DS's true form to argue, the idiot just didn't get it though. If Radion was never actually rectonned out of existence, you can't say that it was rectonned back into existence, yet another point that dumbass just can't seem to grasp. Again, no one said that the New Gods didn't have true forms, they said that the true forms couldn't be debated without evidence. So yeah, nvr was pretty much nvr right unless he was latching onto an arguement that one of our better/more reasonable posters put forth first.

But we seem to have drifted off topic now, if you want to rehash some of nvrhadaclue's arguements though feel free to bump the appropriate threads.

No wonder the guy left. Seems like insulting was the in thing. Still, he was right since no one had ever seen the new gods. That means all their exploits were some kinds of avatars or something.

It's OK to point out stupidity.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
No wonder the guy left. Seems like insulting was the in thing. Still, he was right since no one had ever seen the new gods. That means all their exploits were some kinds of avatars or something.

He finally got tossed because he threw one b*tch fit to many when he was loosing yet another arguement and got banned, that's hardly the same as him leaving. Again, no one said that the New Gods DIDN'T have true forms, just that those forms couldn't be debated without evidence(which he nvr had). And again, the fact that ALL the appearances were avatars means that he was wrong when he acted like DS's Pre Crisis appearances were more relevant than his newer appearances when they were ALL avatars.

Why are we still talking about someone that was rightly ran off from the forum for being stupid years ago anyway? Like I said if you think his old arguements are right then feel free to bump the threads they were in...

Originally posted by darthgoober
He finally got tossed because he threw one b*tch fit to many when he was loosing yet another arguement and got banned, that's hardly the same as him leaving. Again, no one said that the New Gods DIDN'T have true forms, just that those forms couldn't be debated without evidence(which he nvr had). And again, the fact that ALL the appearances were avatars means that he was wrong when he acted like DS's Pre Crisis appearances were more relevant than his newer appearances when they were ALL avatars.

Why are we still talking about someone that was rightly ran off from the forum for being stupid years ago anyway? Like I said if you think his old arguements are right then feel free to bump the threads they were in...

no one is worth the effort.

Orion tapped into his godly form in Countdown when he ripped out Darkseid's heart and repelled the JLA away.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Orion tapped into his godly form in Countdown when he ripped out Darkseid's heart and repelled the JLA away.

I never meant to say that the New Gods true forms were STILL an unknown, but at the time they were.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
no one is worth the effort.

True dat' he's definately not worth the effort. I don't know why you felt compelled to defend him for THIS long when everyone from that period knows just how bad he was. If you don't nbelieve me, just ask anyone other than Trick.

Originally posted by darthgoober
True dat' he's definately not worth the effort. I don't know why you felt compelled to defend him for THIS long when everyone from that period knows just how bad he was. If you don't nbelieve me, just ask anyone other than Trick.
who is Trick? Haven't seen anyposters named Trick.

i THINK he is a troll, he really hates quan.

Originally posted by amnesia
i THINK he is a troll, he really hates quan.
Not sure what a Troll is. Some sort of board insult? And lots of posters hate Quan so that could be anyone.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Reading this nvrs old post,he was pretty much rite. DS did have different bodies and did have a true form. He was also ridiculed for saying that the IH was not multiversal, that lassic beyonder was not more powerful than LT, etc he wasn't that bad. The only thing he had wrong was that he thought DS could beat Odin.
I love when nvr talks about how he was right while pretending not to be nvr.