Fantastic Four vs Twilight

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thank you for clarifying that Susan possess no shield that she produces mentally.

What's this? She produces the shield mentally? And you have no evidence that Edward's mind reading powers can read through that shield?

If the shield was produced by a reflex action rather than with her brain, you might have a point. She doesn't so you don't.

Lol. This is getting ridiculous. Sue produces a shield that blocks physical attacks. Never has she made a shield that can block mental attacks or mental powers, which is what Edward does. Can you clarify again why you think Sue's shields will protect her from a telepathic reading? What, because she uses her brain to make the shield? How do you know it's her brain that makes the shield? So you are actually guessing that it might shield her from mental attacks right? You have absolutely zero proof that it will work the way you say it will.

I'm sorry, but anyone here can see just how ridiculous your reasoning is. Might as well say that Bella's shields can also defend against physical attacks because, well, because you can't prove otherwise.

But if you really want proof, here area few examples of telepathy working on comic Sue (who is a whole lot more powerful than movie sue)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/3853/843782-iwvspl2.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123873/2701755-emmaff.jpg

Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol. This is getting ridiculous. Sue produces a shield that blocks physical attacks. Never has she made a shield that can block mental attacks or mental powers, which is what Edward does. Can you clarify again why you think Sue's shields will protect her from a telepathic reading? What, because she uses her brain to make the shield? How do you know it's her brain that makes the shield? So you are actually guessing that it might shield her from mental attacks right? You have absolutely zero proof that it will work the way you say it will.

I'm sorry, but anyone here can see just how ridiculous your reasoning is. Might as well say that Bella's shields can also defend against physical attacks because, well, because you can't prove otherwise.

But if you really want proof, here area few examples of telepathy working on comic Sue (who is a whole lot more powerful than movie sue)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/3853/843782-iwvspl2.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123873/2701755-emmaff.jpg

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong: I cannot prove that Edward can't read Sue's Mind because I cannot prove that negative ability of Edward's: that makes little sense for me to prove. The burden of proof is on you to prove positive attributes of characters.

As fact, we know that Edward cannot read through the mental shields of the only character in Twilight: Bella. She has a mental shield.

I'll answer this problem for you: you cannot prove that Edward can read through Sue's shield if she has it up. The only evidence we have is a mental shield cannot be read through by Edward, Aro, etc.

Unless the OP wants to say Sue's mental shield can be read through, we must err on the side that has the most supporting evidence: mental shields cannot be read through by Edward.

You tried but failed to shift the burden of proof. This is known as a dodge.

I'll ask again: prove that Edward can read Sue's mind through Sue's shield. The only evidence we have says he can't. You must now assert a positive for Edward's mind-reading abilities.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thank you for clarifying that Susan possess no shield that she produces mentally.

What's this? She produces the shield mentally? And you have no evidence that Edward's mind reading powers can read through that shield?

If the shield was produced by a reflex action rather than with her brain, you might have a point. She doesn't so you don't.

Originally posted by FrothByte
When had Sue ever made a mental shield? You'te giving her powers she doesn't possess. Give me one instance where she was able to shield herself from a mental attack and i'll cede to your point.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'll ask again: prove that Edward can read Sue's mind through Sue's shield. The only evidence we have says he can't. You must now assert a positive for Edward's mind-reading abilities.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Unless the OP wants to say Sue's mental shield can be read through, we must err on the side that has the most supporting evidence: mental shields cannot be read through by Edward.

Alice and Jane solo rape.

Originally posted by dadudemon

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Originally posted by dadudemon
I'll ask again: prove that Edward can read Sue's mind through Sue's shield. The only evidence we have says he can't. You must now assert a positive for Edward's mind-reading abilities.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Unless the OP wants to say Sue's mental shield can be read through, we must err on the side that has the most supporting evidence: mental shields cannot be read through by Edward.

Sigh. Sue creates a physical shield. Not a mental shield. Edward has proven mind reading capabilities. Sue has no proven mental shielding capabilities. When you can prove that Sue can actually shield herself mentally, then we can debate whether Edward can get through a mental shield. Unfortunately for you, Sue has never been able to create a mental shield.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Sigh. Sue creates a physical shield. Not a mental shield. Edward has proven mind reading capabilities. Sue has no proven mental shielding capabilities. When you can prove that Sue can actually shield herself mentally, then we can debate whether Edward can get through a mental shield. Unfortunately for you, Sue has never been able to create a mental shield.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'll ask again: prove that Edward can read Sue's mind through Sue's shield. The only evidence we have says he can't. You must now assert a positive for Edward's mind-reading abilities.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Unless the OP wants to say Sue's mental shield can be read through, we must err on the side that has the most supporting evidence: mental shields cannot be read through by Edward.

ddm trollin' hard i see.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Alice and Jane solo rape.

Originally posted by marwash22
ddm trollin' hard i see.

The opposite is true and no one is trolling.

If a poster is continues to post the same idiotic ideas that have already been covered, they do not deserve anything but the same arguments they've already faced. My position is actually superior to his position because I have one piece of evidence supporting my position and he has none-supporting his.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Alice and Jane solo rape.

Originally posted by dadudemon
CIS is turned off by default unless otherwise stated by the OP.

I disagree. There are manned flight competitions where pilots have to fly through giant pylons in specific orders and it is simply insane what they do. The experience over 9Gs, at times. In fact, it looks as though the makers of the scene of Johnny flying was inspired but some of the same maneuvers they pull in these flight competitions (keep in mind that these planes are much larger than a human (obviously):

YouTube video

YouTube video

That brings up another point: Johnny can light a big field on fire, almost instantly. He lit the entire barge on fire nearly instantly. That should put to rest the idea that Johnny cannot quickly light a field on fire.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Alice and Jane solo rape.

Jane isn't even in this fight.

Begone.

Originally posted by Mindset
The difference is those pilots can see obstacles beforehand in order to react when they finally approach it. Things would pop out in front of Johnny and he'd have to react seemingly instantly -now obviously this didn't happen instantaneously, but he needed superhuman reflexes in order to do what he did.

I disagree: playing video games, F-Zero X, I make much faster reactions and in greater number than Johnny Storm does in his flight. Last time I checked, my reflexes are not superhuman.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree: playing video games, F-Zero X, I make much faster reactions and in greater number than Johnny Storm does in his flight. Last time I checked, my reflexes are not superhuman.

That's a video game, your vessel isn't moving exactly as fast as it says it's going. In the game sure, but you're not perceiving it as real life speed.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That's a video game, your vessel isn't moving exactly as fast as it says it's going. In the game sure, but you're not perceiving it as real life speed.

You did not post anything at all that countered my point. The reaction times and actions per second are much greater than what Johnny Storm pulled off running away from the missiles.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree: playing video games, F-Zero X, I make much faster reactions and in greater number than Johnny Storm does in his flight. Last time I checked, my reflexes are not superhuman.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree: playing video games, F-Zero X, I make much faster reactions and in greater number than Johnny Storm does in his flight. Last time I checked, my reflexes are not superhuman.

You're arguing that Captain Falcon has better reflexes than Johnny?

Playing video games only require you to move your fingers. Not quite the same as moving your entire body to dodge and react to things.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You're arguing that Captain Falcon has better reflexes than Johnny?

dur

Originally posted by FrothByte
Playing video games only require you to move your fingers. Not quite the same as moving your entire body to dodge and react to things.

dur