Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWhat you don't understand is NOBODY IS ASKING FOR LIFTING FEATS just feats period. They can be overpowering feats, hitting feats, ANY FEATS.
You are honestly slow and I feel sorry for you. Get this through your head… I keep saying villains don't have lifting feats because people keep asking for them. Do me a favor H1a8… List me the lifting feats & wrestling feats for Thanos, Despero, Odin, Darkseid & Kurse… Please name the fights that can compare with Thor's, Hulk or Supes feats? You won't find them… guess why retard… because they don't have to do them to save the universe.. they are trying to destroy it usually. So people asking for lifting feats, when common sense and facts say they won't have any… shows how pitiful and weak your arguments truly are. They don't have lifting feats.. but what they do have is a clear superiority to them in vs. combat….
These are feats. Now you are learning. Good Job! Well it took two of them combined to destroy the planet and also they did it indirectly (they caused a series of events and chain reactions to get it done). It's impressive but not as impressive as say destroying a planet in one blow or exerting more than 50 Earth weights of force.
We have Thanos wrestling with Drax… and just the force of the struggle destroys a planet. We have Thanos locking up with Tyrant and stalemating him with his strength.
We have Thanos mocking a pissed off hulk and thing's strength like they were mere children.All Hulk's are pissed. Pissed Hulk have been one shotted by Namor, others have been koed. Juggs forced a pissed Hulk's head in the water. Hulk has the potential to be stronger than any non abstract being. Your argument is suggesting that Hulk can never be stronger than Thanos.
Mocking in strength is different than mocking in total powers. Thanos never mocked Thor in the strength department. Mocking Thing and Marvell proves nothing for they are weak anyway.
We have thanos mocking Thor, Hulk, Mar-veil, Thing etc etc and treating them like children and slapping them away.
These are feats. Good job again. See we don't need lifting feats. The Marvell feat is good but still doesn't prove he is Thor's superior in strength. Thanos has skills (he trained Gamora). This contributes to him koing Surfer in 7 or 8 blows. I view a non holding back Thor to be able to do the same, especially if Thor places the hits as well as skillfully as Thanos did. All you did is prove that Thanos is in Thor's league in strength and not necessary Superior.
We have Thanos punching Mar-veil from Saturn to earth. We have Thanos KOing and pretty much killing surfer in 7 punches (he was out after the 2nd or 3rd).
We have Thanos getting THE BETTER of PG Thor (you need to go re-read the comic you twit) Thor landed 2 more punches… Thanos knocked thor back and down with a blast… the knocked Thor THROUGH a metal floor with a punch. Like any combat sport… knockdowns count for more than simple punches landed. This was a Thor not holding back WITH the PG (thus his durability was exponentially increased) and Thanos got the better of that fight.Thor got the better of Thanos that fight. He had the bloody nose. Knocking someone through a metal force is nothing. Thing can do that. I don't even think the floor was metal anyway, i'll reread it. Blasts don't count when you are in a strength argument. Also the PG doesn't necessary increases someone's durability. The writer didn't portray it to do that. So it's speculation on your part.
How much does heroes weigh? Not much. Any class 100 can do the same thing. Nefaria and many others did the same thing but against more people. Lastly, when a being is fighting multiple beings, then that being will always look superior to any one of the multiple beings that is fighting him. It doesn't matter the true actually strength differences either. It is about a good story only. This is the law of comics.
We have a whole bunch of heroes jump on top of Thanos to dog pile him… he throws them off like Children. See a theme here… the treats them like weak feebs.
Now you are getting slow again. I never claim such things. I claimed the fact that Hulk can become physically stronger than Thanos or anyone under Abstract.
You claim Hulk is stronger and superior… yet Thanos mocks him and treats him like a child.. hmmmm Thanos has proved his physical superior the times they have met. Period. Fact. Try again. You can talk about what ifs all you want… Hulk hasn't proven to be Thanos superior.. Thanos has proven to be hulk's. Thanks for playing and making yourself look stupid.
Yet Thor has collapsed a universe with his punches. He has hit through a Celestials armor. Quasar constructs can and should be easily broken by Thor. Thor had a lot of low showings and inconsistent showings in the past. The fact that he couldn't break it was a lowing showing. Thus u r lowballing.
The reason why Thor couldn't break through was because he doesn't have the striking power Thanos does… Duh. That is a point made clear in comic after comic. Not just Thor though… add Hulk, drax and a host of others who were trying… Thanos one shot it. That is why the weakest Thanos to date was able to down Thor in two shots.
Irrelevant. Thanos never physically showed superiority to Thor. Thanos used blasts to down Thor, not strength.
Yet when has Thor EVER downed Thanos and had him on his knees?
Lies. Thanos had a bloody face, he was losing. He would have lost if he didn't cheat.
Even with the PG and not holding back he couldn't even faze Thanos at all. Yet you think regular Thor is in his league? Is stupidity a common trait in your family?
Because Thanos is superior in power, not strength. Thanos can do things more efficiently than Thor and he is smarter. This is a strength argument remember. Stop trying to con us.
If Thor was all that was needed to take Thanos out… why does he require all this help to attack Thanos when they try and stop him… If Thor was all that was needed why does they always try and gang up on Thanos?
He doesn't really. You are exaggerating the very few times he pimp slap heroes or bash their heads. These heroes aren't even worth mentioning in the same breath as a non holding back Thor. Also let's not forgot about the comic law.
The answer is because Thor isn't near enough. He still discards the heroes like flies.
You need to understand what is an Abstract and what is a physical being.
The In-betweener is an abstract you twit. You don't even read comics, thus it's so funny how you try and act like you know what you're talking about. The In-betweener stalemated Galactus. He is without a doubt an abstract. Thanos had to match his blast power to free him… He did so. Thor hits Galactus with his most powerful blast when Galactus was near dying.. and it barely moves him.. just makes him run because he's already weak. A generic blast from Thanos knocks Galactus through his ship and for miles… See a difference here? Thanos is just stronger in virtually ever aspect.
Galactus is not abstract, so stalemating him doesn't prove you are abstract. Your logic sucks hard. The very definition of the Inbetween prevents him from being Abstract. Again, Galactus didn't brace the impact, he was surprised. Galactus doesn't weight that much so blasting dead weight several blocks back proves nothing. Get that miles sh!t outta here. Galactus has braced against forces far superior to Thanos with no effect.
You failed to prove that Thanos is Thor's superior in the strength department.
Their direct confrontations and indirect confrontation has made that clear even for the slowest of people. Yet, you are still struggling with this concept.. Kinda scary actually
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympuslol, it wasnt a clone at all and you know it, how desperate are you?
So the feat of clones count now?Thor whips up some anti-matter and disintegrates Thanos.
The only way Thor beats Thanos with anti matter is when he isnt a full power like when Drax hit him with anti matter.
We don't even know this took out Thanos at all, that part isn't clear. People have thought they have killed someone and in actuality they didn't. Not to mention, as you say, he wasn't even at full power. Plus, it will come out imo that he let that happen to test if he couldn't die or for some other reason.
Originally posted by Nihilist
lol, it wasnt a clone at all and you know it, how desperate are you?The only way Thor beats Thanos with anti matter is when he isnt a full power like when Drax hit him with anti matter.
That Thanos acknowledged that it was him who Thor had killed during the Designate arc. Or are you arguing that this issue re-retconed the retcon that it was Thanosi that Thor killed? Frankly, I'm fine with either stance.
I thought Thanos was at full power or pretty close to it by that point? I think the Racoon pointed out that Thanos was not quite at full power when he threatened him and that he would be getting more powerful over time. IRCC, the telepaths even pointed out that Thanos' power had grown. Grown to the point their telepathy was ineffective.
I guess we'll have to wait till the next issue.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThanos went along with what Thor said thats all, it was confirmed in the Nova corps files that it was the real Thanos.
That Thanos acknowledged that it was him who Thor had killed during the Designate arc. Or are you arguing that this issue re-retconed the retcon that it was Thanosi that Thor killed? Frankly, I'm fine with either stance.I thought Thanos was at full power or pretty close to it by that point? I think the Racoon pointed out that Thanos was not quite at full power when he threatened him and that he would be getting more powerful over time. IRCC, the telepaths even pointed out that Thanos' power had grown. Grown to the point their telepathy was ineffective.
I guess we'll have to wait till the next issue.
They only said he was getting stronger, but not yet at full power.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos went along with what Thor said thats all, it was confirmed in the Nova corps files that it was the real Thanos.They only said he was getting stronger, but not yet at full power.
That looked like a confirmation to me. Why would he lie? Admitting that he was responsible for the death of billions wouldn't be one of Thanos' goals at that point. He didn't want any new enemies after the Infinity Gauntlet Saga as well (Assuming that was the real Thanos)
He either lied to Gamora or he lied to Thor. In both situations, there would be no reason to lie.
Thanos from the Captain Marvel series = Thanos from the Thor series
If it was the Thanosi, I'd be fine with it. If it was the real Thanos, then it was a re-retcon of the Thanosi retcon, which I'd be fine with as well.
Where?
They who? Rocket or Cosmic/Moondragon?
I love rage trying to use something as proof when we don't even know he actually died. Never showed him dying... only turning really light and blue. Furthermore, right BEFORE THAT... it was said they couldn't mind lock him because he has gained to much power back. He still isn't at full power and this universe is obviously having an effect on him mentally and who knows that else. Point is, he's not at full power nor do we know he is dead.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThats the Nova corps file from Annihilation, this was stated in the Nova corps imperative file book that it was the real Thanos, and in infinity abyss he mentioned all of his clones and he didnt mentioned anything about the Walker fight, its only you trying desperatly to prove otherwise.That looked like a confirmation to me. Why would he lie? Admitting that he was responsible for the death of billions wouldn't be one of Thanos' goals at that point. He didn't want any new enemies after the Infinity Gauntlet Saga as well (Assuming that was the real Thanos)
He either lied to Gamora or he lied to Thor. In both situations, there would be no reason to lie.
Thanos from the Captain Marvel series = Thanos from the Thor series
If it was the Thanosi, I'd be fine with it. If it was the real Thanos, then it was a re-retcon of the Thanosi retcon, which I'd be fine with as well.
Where?
They who? Rocket or Cosmic/Moondragon?
Rocket said after he killed the cancerverse guys "is it just me or does Thanos seems to be getting stroner" proving he was not at full strength.
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Originally posted by Nihilist
Thats the Nova corps file from Annihilation, this was stated in the Nova corps imperative file book that it was the real Thanos, and in infinity abyss he mentioned all of his clones and he didnt mentioned anything about the Walker fight, its only you trying desperatly to prove otherwise.Rocket said after he killed the cancerverse guys "is it just me or does Thanos seems to be getting stroner" proving he was not at full strength.
I'll check it later.
Again: He either lied to Gamora or he lied to Thor. In both situations, there would be no reason to lie.
What issue? I'll check it later. It seems as if these Imperative issues come out every 3 months. I've lost all interest.
i get a kick outta people thinking thanos was weak vs thor with the PG. that was actually a good showing for thanos. thor with that kinda amp, now he did make thanos bleed and knocked him around. thanos just got up and starting grinning. this dosent mean he was going to lose.
RKT or Kt have a better chance against thanos then PG thor. Thor sucks with amps it seems and dont use them to their full potentioal like doom and thanos.