Twilight Vampires run the Star Wars gauntlet

i read the Twilight books and saw the movies (partly because my friend wouldn leave me alone abut reading them party because it was actually a school assignment -.-) NEVER was it mentioned that they ran at 9000mph or faster, NEVER, you made it up dipshit
it only said they moved faster than the eye could see, or instantaneously
2 werewolves can kill a vampire, and werewolves cant move faster than them, meaning they move at a visible spped when fighting "they were a blur, in that intricate dance" eclpise, random chapter during the Edward and Victoria fight (i paraphrased a bit cuz i couldnt exactly remember it)
As it turns out, humans as of 2005 could have killed some vampires, Aro himself said it -.-
So, add a few thousand years and multiply the heat of a nuke by a few numbers and you get a lightsaber and DC-15s, E-11s, etc. Now add a mystical energy field that is surrounding the vamps, able to render them immobile with a thought

Tell me how they win

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument one was not debunked. I showed that vampires do not move that fast in actual combat.

Addressed already.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Woah...dadudemon, did you claim that the sun crusher would do nothing against HP wizards?

Seriously?

Like, destroying the star system that the wizards were on would not kill them?

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Yup. And the reason is listed in that post, as well. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument 3 was not debunked. You and Placidity used the 9000 mph figure as a proof for reaction time, which is invalid since speed is not reaction time.

No we didn't.

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Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument 4 was not debunked, unless if you think that the Twilight vampires can get to the United States when they're in the Jedi Temple in this scenario, which is "A LONG TIME AGO, IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY"

Let's get it through:

I will not address that point again. If you can retroactively add Star Fighters, then I can retroactively give fire and forget missiles.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument 7 was not debunked, because it states it clearly in the OP that the vampires only get 30 minutes prep; not 31 minutes, not an hour, 30 minutes.

It was too, multiple times.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument 10 was not debunked, because you assumed that they would be fighting inside the star destoyer.

And it was already addressed that way, as well.

Stop trolling.

the 9000mph figure came from calculating the distance from Washington to Phoenix and how fast Ed got there. it was determined that he traveled, roughly, 9000mph.

For the sake of curiosity, what youtube vid was posted showing that TwiVamps didn't fight fast? I posted the Felix and Edward fight that proved they did fight fast.

Also, has anyone bothered to debunk the theory about Felix and Renata?

Yes, but is a calculation made by someone who is not bale to determine canon considered canon?

If its not then his whole theory runs out the door

Originally posted by dadudemon
Addressed already.

Where?

Yup. And the reason is listed in that post, as well. Stop trolling.

How do the wizards breathe? How do they get back to a planet that's been destroyed? How will they survive the radiation?

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No we didn't.

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Yes, you did.

Let's get it through:

I will not address that point again. If you can retroactively add Star Fighters, then I can retroactively give fire and forget missiles.

No, you cannot. The Jedi HAVE ACCESS TO Jedi starfighters because Jedi starfighters are a part of the Jedi Order. There has not been one instance suggesting that Twilight vampires ever used missiles. As a counter to this claim, you said that they could hack the missile systems of the US.

Let me ask you:

How do they get to the US from a place LONG AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY?

It was too, multiple times.

Stop trolling.

There's the classic dadudemon "debating" tactic; claiming that something was addressed without proving that it was.

And it was already addressed that way, as well.

Stop trolling.

Prove that it was addressed.

Originally posted by Pwned
Yes, but is a calculation made by someone who is not bale to determine canon considered canon?

If its not then his whole theory runs out the door

Are you saying that using facts to determine speed, isn't valid?

Originally posted by marwash22
i don't get what you're asking me.

Are you saying that using facts to determine speed, isn't valid?

It isn't valid because it was a long distance run, not a fight.

No im asking if just taking distance/time=speed equation is useable as canon im not sure

Also I though Edward flew" We are getting on the plane now"

And also, Bella was hiding in Pheonix for a while, it never said James was there first i think

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
It isn't valid because it was a long distance run, not a fight.

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Originally posted by marwash22
first, that's not what we're discussing. Second, can you really prove that they aren't moving 9000mph when they fight?

YouTube video

The burden of proof is on the person that made the claim. I don't have to prove a negative. It's like asking someone to prove that there aren't flying monkeys on Mars.

i never made the claim, you said it was false, so it must mean that you have proof.

Originally posted by marwash22
i never made the claim, you said it was false, so it must mean that you have proof.

No, the Twilight supporters said that it was true, and I said that it was false (or assumed false) unless if the Twilight supporters could prove it, which they still haven't.

lol, that's not possible to prove as either a definitive positive or negative. However, just by watching the video and seeing how fast they are moving, even with it being in slow motion for the sake of the viewers, it's obvious that they are moving super-fast... but it's not at all possible to discern exactly how fast they are moving.

Saying it's false and not being able to provide proof, is not the way debate works. If this were court and we're both lawyers, if i claim my client was on the moon on March 5, 2010... it would be up to you to prove that he wasn't. You can't win an argument just by saying "nuh-uh".

There's evidence to support that the TwiVamps move extremely fast, in order for you to claim the speed doesn't extend to lateral movement and reflexes, you need to prove it, not me.

Don't mistake any of that as me claiming the TwiVamps win this fight, as i have said numerous times, this is spite.

Originally posted by marwash22
lol, that's not possible to prove as either a definitive positive or negative. However, just by watching the video and seeing how fast they are moving, even with it being in slow motion for the sake of the viewers, it's obvious that they are moving super-fast... but it's not at all possible to discern exactly how fast they are moving.

They were moving fast, but:

1. That's Felix, among the most powerful of the vampires. Not every vampire would move that fast.
2. They still weren't moving too fast for, say, the eye to detect.

Saying it's false and not being able to provide proof, is not the way debate works. If this were court and we're both lawyers, if i claim my client was on the moon on March 5, 2010... it would be up to you to proof that he wasn't. You can't win an argument just by saying "nuh-uh".

A better analogy would be if you claimed that my client was guilty, and you asked me to prove that he wasn't. That's ridiculous since according to the USA everybody is innocent until proven guilty.

Oh, and in our PMs he actually asked ME to prove HIS claim.

There's evidence to support that the TwiVamps move extremely fast, in order for you to claim the speed doesn't extend to lateral movement and reflexes, you need to prove it, not me.

1. I didn't deny that the vampires didn't move extremely fast. I denied that they could kill 10,000 Jedi before any of the 10,000 Jedi can react. The Jedi win. These arguments for Twilight have been mathematically disproved.

2. Actually it's pretty obvious that speed does not equate to reaction speed.

3. The Force travels FASTER than even Felix travels, so this argument is void.

Originally posted by Pwned
i read the Twilight books and saw the movies (partly because my friend wouldn leave me alone abut reading them party because it was actually a school assignment -.-) NEVER was it mentioned that they ran at 9000mph or faster, NEVER, you made it up dipshit
it only said they moved faster than the eye could see, or instantaneously
2 werewolves can kill a vampire, and werewolves cant move faster than them, meaning they move at a visible spped when fighting "they were a blur, in that intricate dance" eclpise, random chapter during the Edward and Victoria fight (i paraphrased a bit cuz i couldnt exactly remember it)
As it turns out, humans as of 2005 could have killed some vampires, Aro himself said it -.-
So, add a few thousand years and multiply the heat of a nuke by a few numbers and you get a lightsaber and DC-15s, E-11s, etc. Now add a mystical energy field that is surrounding the vamps, able to render them immobile with a thought

Tell me how they win

1. You're a sock troll.
2. It was in the movies, not the book. If you rread the thread and watched the movies, you'd know exactly what I was talking about.
3. You just more than proved my point by saying faster than the eye could see or instantly, bro. 😬
4. So you've more than proved my point with that "blur" statement. Good job. And the werewolves can destory the vamps...because....get this....their teeth are strong enough. Did you pay attention to book 4? I guess not.
5. What Aro did say was that he thought that with their science that the humans could "even destroy some of us", but that their belief in science creates a larger gap between science and them being relegated to myth, meaning, they are becoming safer and safer from humans due to their science making them skeptical of things that seem "mythical." Page 716. 😐
6. A lightsaber is how hot? That's right...tell me how hot it is. 🙂

So, an empire that couldn't even destroy a few upstart rebels are somehow going to destroy these far more than superhuman vampires, right? That seems a little absurd. The Empire isn't like Star Trek: They can't scan an entire planet and then pick up almost an exact number of lifeforms, density, location, etc. If we've learned one thing about the Star Wars universe it's that their detecting technology is quite shitty.

You'll be banned, soon enough, so I'm not worried. 🙂 love ya!

oh geez... this thread is still active facepalm

Everyone: I will no longer respond to anything in this thread.

It is painfully obvious that the Force users get raped.

AT-ATs, AT-STs...all go down to a vamp. With the exception of a death star, the vamps can defeat everything on that list, easily. For obvious reasons, that shouldn't even be on the list.

This is me signing off. Peace, homies.

The burden of proof always lies on the shoulders of the person who disputes a claim. In a court case, I can legitimately claim that my client is the King of Switzerland... and i don't need any proof to do so, the burden of proof is on you prove my statement is false.

In this case, someone claimed the TwiVamps can move 9000mph in a fight... you, as the person who disputes the claim, need proof. You hurt yourself by bringing up, guilty until proven innocent because...

In law, a prosecutor can (at any time), literally claim that you committed a crime (no evidence is need, as a prosecutor, all i have to do is say you did "x"😉... it's up to you to disprove the claim.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Everyone: I will no longer respond to anything in this thread.

It is painfully obvious that the Force users get raped.

AT-ATs, AT-STs...all go down to a vamp. With the exception of a death star, the vamps can defeat everything on that list, easily. For obvious reasons, that shouldn't even be on the list.

This is me signing off. Peace, homies.

HOW do AT-AT's go down?

And you lost. Face it. Especially when you thought that the vampires could get to the USA when in this scenario they start off in the Jedi Temple A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY.

It's not painfully obvious because your statement is, once again, unsupported.

Oh, and your idea that wizards can survive in space and that the Empire can't defeat a bunch of vampires is ridiculous.

Those weren't "upstart" Rebels. Those were an organized Alliance consisting of thousands of star systems and influential leaders. Stop lying.

Jedi use Force pull + lightsaber stab. Until you prove otherwise, Jedi win. Vampires lose.