Twilight Vampires run the Star Wars gauntlet

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sorry, I will not address those points because they have already been addressed.

If want answers to those questions, read this entire thread and read the thread RJ had closed. Most if not all the answers to your points are in those.

I read this entire thread.

You may have addressed these points or attempted to address them, but I responded to your arguments. Then you refused to respond to mine because "you already did". Basically:

Me: Jed win because of X
You: I shall refute X
Me: I shall refute your refuting of X
You: I shall not respond to you because I already refuted X

See the fallacy in this logic of yours?

You are DESPERATE not to take a few minutes of your time and repost your arguments, as I have been willing to do over and over again for several pages.

It would take less time for you to repost your arguments than to keep on typing that you already did.

Please repost your arguments.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sorry, I will not address those points because they have already been addressed.

If want answers to those questions, read this entire thread and read the thread RJ had closed. Most if not all the answers to your points are in those.

It's like this:

Us: "OK, there's our counter, your turn."

You: "No, you're wrong, I already covered that."

Us: "No, I read your counter, I countered it right back."

You: "No. You're wrong."

Us: "How? Tell us how we're wrong."

You: "Already covered that."

Us: "No, I read what you said, I countered it back to you. Please reply."

You: "Already covered that."

It's dodging and weaving. In this thread, you ignore the facts provided to you, the vids proving the Jedi have more than enough reaction time to pwn the Twivamps, you keep going back to "They are too fast", when we have absolutely, without a doubt, proven that they are not.

"No, you!!!" and "Already covered that" doesn't fly here. When asked to prove something, you must prove it. Not that hard to go back and quote yourself.

I don't even know why I am bothering telling you this, you'll ignore it as usual, say we missed this, missed that, whatever.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall

Please repost your arguments.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I read this entire thread.

You may have addressed these points or attempted to address them, but I responded to your arguments. Then you refused to respond to mine because "you already did". Basically:

Me: Jed win because of X
You: I shall refute X
Me: I shall refute your refuting of X
You: I shall not respond to you because I already refuted X

See the fallacy in this logic of yours?

You are DESPERATE not to take a few minutes of your time and repost your arguments, as I have been willing to do over and over again for several pages.

It would take less time for you to repost your arguments than to keep on typing that you already did.

I still don't undestand how you can type so much to such a small post. That's actually how AC worked. It is definitely annoying.

And, no, what I said still stands.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sorry, dude, in that thread and this thread, you ignore shit and you talk in circles.

It's like this:

Us: "OK, there's our counter, your turn."

You: "No, you're wrong, I already covered that."

Us: "No, I read your counter, I countered it right back."

You: "No. You're wrong."

Us: "How? Tell us how we're wrong."

You: "Already covered that."

Us: "No, I read what you said, I countered it back to you. Please reply."

You: "Already covered that."

It's dodging and weaving. In this thread, you ignore the facts provided to you, the vids proving the Jedi have more than enough reaction time to pwn the Twivamps, you keep going back to "They are too fast", when we have absolutely, without a doubt, proven that they are not.

"No, you!!!" and "Already covered that" doesn't fly here. When asked to prove something, you must prove it. Not that hard to go back and quote yourself.

I don't even know why I am bothering telling you this, you'll ignore it as usual, say we missed this, missed that, whatever.

It's not dodging or weaving. It's annoying as **** when both you and HWKA ignore every point and continue to spam that same points of your own.

Vampires battle speed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sidious. Sidious beat down 3 Jedi's like they were nothing. That should have ended the debate right there. But for some ridiculous reason, you guys wanted to continue as if you had even a tiny chance of logically countering that.

No force user stands a chance against a twivamp. Period. There's no contest. It's not even close. You will never ever convince me of a false-hood. I know Star Wars inside and out and I know Twilight inside and out. It's sooooooooooo very annoying that there are so many twihaters, you being one of them. Sure, bad acting, bad writing, and its g*y, but that shouldn't mean that you ignore the vampires abilities so you can have this weird sense of "justice" against something you hate.

If you guys REALLY want to see what was ignore: all the points I've made and others have made in favor of the twivamps AND the twivamps gifts.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Please repost your arguments.

No. You research this thread and copy and paste the rebutals to your arguments. They are in this thread and in the other one. Then read those over and over again. Like, a lot of times.

Originally posted by dadudemon

No force user stands a chance against a twivamp. Period. There's no contest.

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I know Star Wars inside and out

and I know Twilight inside and out.

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It's sooooooooooo very annoying that there are so many twihaters, you being one of them.

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Not true and you know it. You always do this, accuse me of Twihating when you know it aint true.

You know, I just realized something. You think the top tier Jedi can defeat the top tier HP wizards, despite:

A big ass wall of fiendfyre.
Apparating wizards.
Half apparating wizards, INVISIBLE flying Death eaters.
Wizards flying around casting spells out the yazoo.
Dumbledore's fire storm.

You think that that Jedi precog will work fine with ALL of this going on at once. But against a buncha fast Vampires, you think the Jedi have no chance.

See, you really have no idea how Jedi battle precog works. The Jedi will always know a few seconds in advance where the Twivamps will be. If the Twivamp decides to change direction, the Jedi will know a few seconds ahead of time. If the Twivamp decides to throw a big ass piece of metal at the Jedi, the Jedi will now a few seconds in advance. The Jedi will always, without fail, be 2-3 steps ahead of the Twivamps. Why? The Jedi have Battle precog and the required reaction speed, I have proven a hundred times over that they DO have this.

Whatever decisions the Twivamps make, the Jedi will be aware of it a few seconds before it happens. That's all there is to it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, you don't.

I do. On multiple occasions I've proven to exceed you by quite a margin.

Oh, and keep in mind that you didn't want to talk to me anymore when I did prove that you didn't know quite a few significant things aout Star Wars and stated that you didn't. You got soooooooooooooo pissed. Remember that?

This is the difference between you and I. Take note. 😉

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not true and you know it. You always do this, accuse me of Twihating when you know it aint true.

No, it is true. You filled up the MVF with anti-twi threads. 😬

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You know, I just realized something. You think the top tier Jedi can defeat the top tier HP wizards, despite:

A big ass wall of fiendfyre.
Apparating wizards.
Half apparating wizards, INVISIBLE flying Death eaters.
Wizards flying around casting spells out the yazoo.
Dumbledore's fire storm.

That's not true. I said with prep a wizard could beat just about anyone. It's without prep that the Wizard gets their ass beat.

Think about it: who do you think could be Dumbles if he's taken Felix Felicis? Maybe Manhattan like characters? That's just about it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You think that that Jedi precog will work fine with ALL of this going on at once. But against a buncha fast Vampires, you think the Jedi have no chance.

Same problem as before: "alllll of this" isn't happening before they are dead. 😬

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
See, you really have no idea how Jedi battle precog works.

No, you don't. That's obvious.

You think it doesn't work against slower wizards but you think it works against far faster vampires. Ridiculous.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The Jedi will always know a few seconds in advance where the Twivamps will be. If the Twivamp decides to change direction, the Jedi will know a few seconds ahead of time. If the Twivamp decides to throw a big ass piece of metal at the Jedi, the Jedi will now a few seconds in advance. The Jedi will always, without fail, be 2-3 steps ahead of the Twivamps. Why? The Jedi have Battle precog and the required reaction speed, I have proven a hundred times over that they DO have this.

Placidity pwned the shit out of this argument, already.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Whatever decisions the Twivamps make, the Jedi will be aware of it a few seconds before it happens. That's all there is to it.

Again, Placidity pwned the shit out of this argument, already..

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do. On multiple occasions I've proven to exceed you by quite a margin.

No, it is true. You filled up the MVF with anti-twi threads. 😬

And who argued viligantly for the Twifags in the Blade/Twifags thread?

Me.

That's not true. I said with prep a wizard could beat just about anyone. It's without prep that the Wizard gets their ass beat.

Epic fail. This thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=530936&pagenumber=1

Wizards have prep and you argued against the wizards. Deja vu, back we go to your tendency to have memory lapses.

Think about it: who do you think could be Dumbles if he's taken Felix Felicis? Maybe Manhattan like characters? That's just about it.

Same problem as before: "alllll of this" isn't happening before they are dead. 😬

No, you don't. That's obvious.

You think it doesn't work against slower wizards but you think it works against far faster vampires. Ridiculous.

Placidity pwned the shit out of this argument, already.

Again, Placidity pwned the shit out of this argument, already..

Dadudemon, it is up to you to show us the proof. The burden of proof is on you. Your desperation to avoid repeating your arguments once isn't fooling RJ or me.

Oh, and the Jedi get Jedi starfighters. You saying that they don't for no reason does not change the fact that they get them. The vampires do not get access to those missiles that you refer to because they aren't even in the same ralaxy and time period as the USA.

This thread makes Tom laugh:

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Dadudemon; if you're not going to post your arguments and instead are going to ignore our posts and saying "zomg it has already been proven!", then you should concede. You're clearly not debating, and it's getting annoying.

Please COUNTER those 11 arguments I posted. If you already did, then do it again. I'll post my arguments and requests again:

1. Show me where you proved that the vampires can move fast enough to speed blitz the Jedi.
2. Show me where you proved that the vampires can resist the Force.
3. Show me where you proved that the vampires have a higher reaction speed than the Jedi.
4. Explain to me how the vampires get access to missiles.
5. Explain to me why Jedi starfighters aren't allowed when they're part of the Jedi Order.
6. Provide proof that starfighers only move at 1,000 mph when there are several examples of them moving at over 10,000 mph.
7. Explain to me why you think that only giving Alice 30 minutes is gimping when in the OP I clearly stated that the vampires get 30 minutes prep.
8. Explain to me why in our PMs you stated that the things that blaster bolts blew holes in (such as walls in a spaceport, droidekas, etc.) were made out of plastic and called it a fact.
9. You said "It wasn't seen on screen. You can't just give people abilities and tech that was never shown on screen." However, in that section of the post, you claimed that Twilight would somehow win even if we included canon EU evidence. I was refuting that. Why would you refute my claim by saying that it's not on screen when we were talking about the EU in that part of the argument?
10. Explain to me how the vampires get past a star destroyer.
11. Explain to me how the vampires get past an AT-AT or an AT-TE.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Dadudemon; if you're not going to post your arguments and instead are going to ignore our posts and saying "zomg it has already been proven!", then you should concede. You're clearly not debating, and it's getting annoying.

Please COUNTER those 11 arguments I posted. If you already did, then do it again. I'll post my arguments and requests again:

1. Show me where you proved that the vampires can move fast enough to speed blitz the Jedi.
2. Show me where you proved that the vampires can resist the Force.
3. Show me where you proved that the vampires have a higher reaction speed than the Jedi.
4. Explain to me how the vampires get access to missiles.
5. Explain to me why Jedi starfighters aren't allowed when they're part of the Jedi Order.
6. Provide proof that starfighers only move at 1,000 mph when there are several examples of them moving at over 10,000 mph.
7. Explain to me why you think that only giving Alice 30 minutes is gimping when in the OP I clearly stated that the vampires get 30 minutes prep.
8. Explain to me why in our PMs you stated that the things that blaster bolts blew holes in (such as walls in a spaceport, droidekas, etc.) were made out of plastic and called it a fact.
9. You said "It wasn't seen on screen. You can't just give people abilities and tech that was never shown on screen." However, in that section of the post, you claimed that Twilight would somehow win even if we included canon EU evidence. I was refuting that. Why would you refute my claim by saying that it's not on screen when we were talking about the EU in that part of the argument?
10. Explain to me how the vampires get past a star destroyer.
11. Explain to me how the vampires get past an AT-AT or an AT-TE.

1-11 has been done already (with the exception of 8, but that one is REALLY obvious...think about it). There is not one single point on that list that has not been covered directly or indirectly.

Stop trolling me.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1-11 has been done already (with the exception of 8, but that one is REALLY obvious...think about it). There is not one single point on that list that has not been covered directly or indirectly.

Stop trolling me.

Then I win, because you still refuse to simply post your arguments again. And I COUNTERED your arguments. Those 11 arguments were COUNTERS to yours. You cannot counter a counter with the post that the counter was countering. That's an incorrect chronological order. And no, you're lying; you haven't covered all of those. You have no proof that you have, and those that you did cover RJ and I refuted. Without posting your proofs, you cannot prove to us that you are telling the truth.

And no, 8 is not obvious. Do you seriously think that battle droids were made out of plastic? Oh, and if you're saying that when filming the movies they were using plastic to simulate metal and using them filming the movies as canon for the in movie Universe (in which case I could say that the Twilight vampires were not really vampires and just actors), then I'm declaring you among the top 10 most ignorant debaters I have ever encountered.

Me: Jedi win because of X!
You: No they don't because of Y!
Me: Y is invalid because of Z!
You: I already countered Z with Y!
Me: No, that's the wrong chronological order. I posted X. You countered with Y. I countered Y with Z. Y only addressed (or attempted to address) X, not Z.

In other words:

Me: Jedi win. Vampires cannot go as fast as you claim. Jedi get one split second and they pwn the vampires with Force pull + lightsaber stab.
You: No, vampires have run at 9000 mph before.
Me: That was in a long distance run, not a fight.
You: I already covered that.
Me: No, you were referring to a long distance run. Prove that they could FIGHT that fast when multiple fight scenes show otherwise.
You: You're wrong, simple.
Me: How?
You: Already covered that.
Me: You covered RUNNING speed, not COMBAT speed.
You: Didn't bother to read your post.
Me: How do you expect to debate without reading the other side's posts?
You: Because they're full of fail.
Me: You have not proven that the vampires can FIGHT at 9000 mph.
You: Yes I did.
Me: Where? I checked the entire thread.
You: I'm not going to show you.

Basically, stating that they've already been covered is not proof that they have, nor is it a rebuttal to a post that's refuting those posts that you're referring to.

I post X
You refute X with Y
I refute Y with Z
You claim that Z was already refuted by Y

See? It's like as if you're perceiving time backwards.

Ok, apparently team Twilight tried to counter the Jedi pwning with the Force argument with this:

Vamps are too fast to be locked on by force pull. Jedi need to aim their hands at their target first.

This is debunked, because Jedi don't have to aim their hands first. Team Twilight outright lied about that.

Therefore, you still need to respond to argument number 2.

Placidity also claimed that a vampire could change directions in mid run in half a second. He provided no proof for that.

Argument 5 was not debunked. Your counter was that they aren't allowed. I asked why. You responded by saying that they aren't allowed.

Basically:

You: They aren't allowed because they aren't allowed.

Argument 9 was not debunked because this is the first time I mentioned it.

So far, I have shown that arguments 2, 5 and 9 are still there.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, we were discussing ANH once and you didn't even know the name of Princess Leia's ship from the opening battle. Another time we were discussing Luke's trench run on the Death Star and you couldn't remember who peeled off, Wedge or Biggs.

And then there's reality: I'm shitty with names. In both of your examples, it involves names.

I'm literally retarded when it comes to remembering names.

Here's a brief introduction to your list:

There was that time you didn't know how many Sith could exist at one time and I had to requote Mace to you.

There was that one time I had to explain to you what "bringing balance to the force" meant. On top of that, I had to remind you of the conversation that Yoda and Mace were having about it.

There was that time I had to remind you that Mace didn't melt Palpatine's face but it was, rather, removing his mask.

There was that time you did not understand fundamentals of the force and though the force was applied in flat planes and couldn't be applied unevenly. (You still denied it to the bitter end, even after seeing several movie examples that showed you that you were wrong.)

You confused Leia's and Han's asteroid adventures for ANH and I had to explain to you that it was in ESB. (That's pretty severe, dude...but let's chalk that one up to a simple mistake.)

You also didn't know why they couldn't do a trench run in RotJ, like they did in ANH, and I had to explain that they shielded the reactor core.

Things that you've had to explain to me that you didn't list:

I forgot who Red5 and Red 2 was. (Luke and Wedge, respectively.)

Forgot what Han's blaster was. (DL-44)

I didn't know the class of freighter Han's ship was. (A YT-1300.)

Again, do you notice the difference between what I forgot and what you forgot? You forgot fundamental plot points and I forgot, get this, names of shit.

What's great about that is 1 of those three occurred in the OTF. (the second one.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And who argued viligantly for the Twifags in the Blade/Twifags thread?

Me.

I did not notice that as I did not participate in that thread very much at all..and when I did, it wasn't serious business.

It'd be stupid to argue for Blade, anyway: let's see, a daywalker that is a 2 ton class lifter, has heightened senses and slightly higher than human fighting ability/speed. Then you have the Twivamps that are bulletproof and are 100+ton class lifters and fight so fast that even in slow mo, it blurs...and the icing: they have "special" gifts above their physical gifts.

That's a pretty damn easy outcome and doesn't really require thought at all. The thread would technically be spite.

You'll have to come up with a far better example than that thread.

Yeah, the MVF is still full of your twi-spite.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Epic fail. This thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=530936&pagenumber=1

Wizards have prep and you argued against the wizards. Deja vu, back we go to your tendency to have memory lapses.

You really don't remember jack shit from that thread, apparantly.

Behold, epic fail on your part:

Originally posted by dadudemon
On that note, I'm not taking this as seriously as others might be...I'm just trying to have fun.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think you should have given the magic users Felix Felicis potion.

😐

Just to make it fair.

And, I disagree.

Wizards with their best weapons can beat anyone except Manhattan and people similar to that. Force users with their best weapons still lose: what does the sun crusher do against a large group of powerful wizards that just sipped some Felicis? Should do nothing, by all accounts.

Epic pwn right in the mouth!

You owe me 2 double cheeseburgers, now. PWNED!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
McClane.

But, do you see how eerily similar my old posts were to what you just reponded to? Maybe...I dunno, I'm the same today I was then? 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
See? You don't get that a Jedi will know where and when they will attack from. The Jedi won't even realize they reacted, the force takes over and guides them.

That point got the shit pwned out of it by Placidity.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This entire thread is a testament that I in fact do. Quite the opposite for you.

No, what I said. You can't respond with a "no u!" when you even quoted the thread that shows exactly what I was talking about, about you.

facepalm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ah, there you go again. Not facing it, running away, hiding under the covers.

Ah, there you go again. Not facing it because you know you've been pwned so you, instead, resort to insults. 😬

In other words, I've pwned you like Tom Cruise did Oprah:

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Argument one was not debunked. I showed that vampires do not move that fast in actual combat.

Woah...dadudemon, did you claim that the sun crusher would do nothing against HP wizards?

Seriously?

Like, destroying the star system that the wizards were on would not kill them?

WTF?

Argument 3 was not debunked. You and Placidity used the 9000 mph figure as a proof for reaction time, which is invalid since speed is not reaction time.

Argument 4 was not debunked, unless if you think that the Twilight vampires can get to the United States when they're in the Jedi Temple in this scenario, which is "A LONG TIME AGO, IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY"

Argument 7 was not debunked, because it states it clearly in the OP that the vampires only get 30 minutes prep; not 31 minutes, not an hour, 30 minutes.

Argument 10 was not debunked, because you assumed that they would be fighting inside the star destoyer.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Ok, apparently team Twilight tried to counter the Jedi pwning with the Force argument with this:

This is debunked, because Jedi don't have to aim their hands first. Team Twilight outright lied about that.

False.

Show me one instance that they don't have to use their hand.

After you show me that, show me the plethora of instances that they do have to move their hands.

In other words, stop misrepresenting facts just to win. That's petty and it's lying.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Therefore, you still need to respond to argument number 2.

False premises results in a false conclusion.

Fail.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Placidity also claimed that a vampire could change directions in mid run in half a second. He provided [b]no proof for that.[/B]

They can do that far faster than that and proof was provided of that.

If you say that again, I'll start reporting you for trolling. Dead serious.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument 5 was not debunked. Your counter was that they aren't allowed. I asked why. You responded by saying that they aren't allowed.

Basically:

You: They aren't allowed because they aren't allowed.

You're lying. That's not the only reason. That's only 1 of 4 reasons posted.

I'll report you if you keep trolling like this.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument 9 was not debunked because this is the first time I mentioned it.

So far, I have shown that arguments 2, 5 and 9 are still there.

Argument 9 was already addressed in PMs, indirectly. You'd just have to think for a second and realize the answer.

In fact, you have a direct answer to that question in something I've been requoting, over and over again.

Now do you see why I don't like to respond to your posts? You do nothing but troll. You repeat yourself and lie. You misrepresent facts and you retcon the thread.

All very immature and not worth a discussion.

Why do you think I respond to RJ? He keeps it fun and he doesn't get too serious. For the most part, he is willing to concede if there is no doubt he is wrong. You do none of those.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument one was not debunked. I showed that vampires do not move that fast in actual combat.

1 was too. It showed that both you and RJ ignored what was seen on screen.

So if 1 is the only one you are sure that wasn't countered, then we can move from there.

I'm willing to actually do math on the speed of the fighting vamps vs. the speed of Palpatine's blade when he killed all of those Jedi.

Are you willing to drop the others and focus just on that?

Originally posted by dadudemon
1 was to. It showed that both you and RJ ignored what was seen on screen.

So if 1 is the only one you are sure that wasn't countered, then we can move from there.

I'm willing to actually do math on the speed of the fighting vamps vs. the speed of Palpatine's blade when he killed all of those Jedi.

Are you willing to drop the others and focus just on that?

No, I posted a youtube video showing vampires fighting far slower than what you claimed, and you never even quoted it.

4. Explain to me how the vampires get access to missiles.

Your attempt at debunking this is that the vampires could hack into the US missile systems.

Ok, let me get this straight: I stated in the OP that the battles are in the Jedi Temple in this scenario. The Jedi Temple is in the SW galaxy, which is:

A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY

For argument 5, you said that they aren't allowed. I asked why. You quoted your original statement that they aren't allowed.

You: Jedi don't get Jedi starfighters!
Me: Why not?
You: Jedi don't get Jedi starfighters!

Argument 9 you couldn't possibly have debunked since this is the first time I brought it up.

Argument 11 was not debunked.

Me: How do they get past 2 AT-ATs?
You: Oh AT-ATs can't hit them!
Me: But how do the vampires get past the AT-ATs when they can't damage them?
You: It's obvious. They don't have to destroy the AT-ATs.
Me: ??? Explain.
Then you dropped the argument.

Argument 2 was not debunked.

In ROTJ Luke moved C3PO's chair without using his hands.

Argument 5 was not debunked. Please list those other 3 reasons.

Argument 9 was not addressed in PMs. We addressed a SIMILAR topic in PMs, but not the same.

Me: If we get to use the EU would you admit that the Jedi win?
You: nah.
Me: but the Jedi can *states facts*
You: But that's from the EU!
Me: but we were talking about the EU.
You: Already covered that.

The half second time changing idea used the 9000 mph figure as proof, which is flawed since running speed does not equate to combat speed. Also, the idea was assuming that the Jedi would use their lightsabers when they could use the Force (which has not shown to have any speed limit, and would thus "move" faster than the vampires).

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
No, I posted a youtube video showing vampires fighting far slower than what you claimed, and you never even quoted it.

You're trolling. It was addressed multiple times.

I don't have to quote a post to address a point. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
4. Explain to me how the vampires get access to missiles.

Already been done. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Your attempt at debunking this is that the vampires could hack into the US missile systems.

Did I say that?

Oh, wait, I didn't. I never said that. You said it.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Ok, let me get this straight: I stated in the OP that the battles are in the Jedi Temple in this scenario. The Jedi Temple is in the SW galaxy, which is:

A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY

Thanks for that. No one knew that in this thread.

Other than you yelling, there is absolutely not point being served from this information. None.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
For argument 5, you said that they aren't allowed. I asked why. You quoted your original statement that they aren't allowed.

You: Jedi don't get Jedi starfighters!
Me: Why not?
You: Jedi don't get Jedi starfighters!

Already addressed.
You did not even represent that point, fully, as well.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Argument 9 you couldn't possibly have debunked since this is the first time I brought it up.

"Argument 9 was already addressed in PMs, indirectly. You'd just have to think for a second and realize the answer.

In fact, you have a direct answer to that question in something I've been requoting, over and over again."