French parliament approves face veil ban

Started by inimalist14 pages
Originally posted by majid86
Even though im a proud British Asian, i do feel why some White British are very opposed to foreign immigration and sometimes vote BNP cause they feel afraid and have every right to be

the BNP consistantly do terribly at the polls, in fact, they are losing the seats they had previously won.

don't divide the world into us and them and you will help yourself much more than if you talk about all white people as being anti-muslim/immigrant.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
As long as you make sweeping generalizations about them and talk like you're planning to take over Leicester they're probably not going to accept you.

Well i dont think that true because i didn't say that British Asians were gonna takeover Leicester, i just said that British Asians will eventually become the majority ethnic group and there will still be White British people living there after all.

And just take a look at London it has over 300 ethnic groups ranging from British Latinos (yes there are lots of Hispanic people born and raised in the UK) to British Somalian to British Filipinos which adds in weight to the fact that London is the world's premier city.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
That could be true if 20+ million Chinese morphed into Arabs.

And Americans never understood the concept of continents and countries.
And apparently some posters on here don't either. [/B][/QUOTE]

That is a creepy thought.But this has nothing to do with Chinese so whatever.

Originally posted by majid86
I wish that were true but unfortunately its not the case because the UK, British Asians make up 6% of the total population which is 4 million and now in its 3rd or 4th generation since our grandparents decided to move to the UK.

British Asians are constantly told to go back home by White British people despite the fact we were born and raised here and hail from most of Britain's major cities like London, Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow, Liverpool, Newcastle and Leeds.

White British people will never accept us as their fellow countrymen and that is the bottom line.

Oh please. And you're just overflowing with goodwill and friendship towards white British people, aren't you?

Britons have made all the possible adjustments to suit everyone, but the fact that my uncle is advised by the police to not go to certain places in Bradford for the fear of being beaten by Asian youth, somehow escapes your scope of argument.

How about you go and get to know some white British people (non-chavs). If you make the effort, you'll find that they're very accepting lot and try not to say threatening things to their democracy and their country, such as ''the flag of Islam will fly over 12 Downing street'' for example.

I'm still awaiting a justification for the veil ban.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
I'm still awaiting a justification for the veil ban.

It's weird, they look like ninjas.
It causes vitamin-D deficiency.
You can hide an Barrett M107 in that thing.
Nuns have a no contest contract for wearing most of the outfit.

There isn't one, as far as I'm concerned, Zeal.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's weird, they look like ninjas.
It causes vitamin-D deficiency.
You can hide an Barrett M107 in that thing.
Nuns have a no contest contract for wearing most of the outfit.

It's also somewhat sexist.

I think it's bad news if the government enforces the opposite- all women must wear burkas- but if nobody is forcing them to do it and it's done by choice, then have at it.

Originally posted by REXXXX
I think it's bad news if the government enforces the opposite- all women must wear burkas- but if nobody is forcing them to do it and it's done by choice, then have at it.

Just that it might not be done by choice. It's somewhat similar to the business thing in the other thread, but if it is forcibly mandated by the family, then it is not really a choice, and the government may ultimately want to do something about it, to corrode this attitude.

Hmm, fair enough, I could understand that. The opposite to that could be 'don't mess with other cultures' but they ARE in France. Still, I think a total ban is a bit much.

Originally posted by REXXXX
Hmm, fair enough, I could understand that. The opposite to that could be 'don't mess with other cultures' but they ARE in France. Still, I think a total ban is a bit much.
I do, too. That is just one of the arguments that I can somewhat follow, the other being some danger in public building and banks, etc. though neither is enough to make me agree with it.

Yeah, me neither. The logic of it being a danger in public places, if one were to jump off the deep end, would also require pretty much nobody to wear anything on their faces ever again. Not a practical argument.

Originally posted by REXXXX
would also require pretty much nobody to wear anything on their faces ever again. Not a practical argument.
That's more or less a law in germany

Originally posted by Bardock42
Just that it might not be done by choice. It's somewhat similar to the business thing in the other thread, but if it is forcibly mandated by the family, then it is not really a choice, and the government may ultimately want to do something about it, to corrode this attitude.

This contains a provision against forcing people to wear it. $30000 dollars and jail time, I think.

Is that the actual punishment for breaking the No Burka law?

Interesting, Parmaniac. I didn't know that. Tell me more?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
This contains a provision against forcing people to wear it. $30000 dollars and jail time, I think.
which could be made into a crime by itself with no need to prohibit women from wearing it without coercion.

Originally posted by REXXXX
Is that the actual punishment for breaking the No Burka law?

Interesting, Parmaniac. I didn't know that. Tell me more?

its the penalty for coercing women into wearing it.

Steep penalty. I suppose it'd turn into a matter of proving whether or not the women who chose to wear burkas were coerced.

Is there an actual penalty for the women wearing it by choice?

Originally posted by REXXXX
Is that the actual punishment for breaking the No Burka law?

Interesting, Parmaniac. I didn't know that. Tell me more?

Just for forcing people to wear it (was it not a crime before?) not for wearing it, for that the penalty is $185 and/or "citizenship classes". Which may be the creepiest thing anyone ever put into a law.