Like I said, would be nice to know if WW has used the lasso to breach force fields before. I'd like to see the scans of this happening. Otherwise, I don't see how the Lasso can even touch Nova.
Of course, I don't see Nova winning any close ranged fights with WW, but with the Worldmind helping him out, he should easily discern the fact that WW is a close combat specialist and simply keep away from her while peppering her with energy blasts and using his force fields to fend off her limited ranged attacks like her lasso.
Originally posted by Psychopath001
Okay, so let me get this straight.Wonder Woman's lasso is essentially so powerful that whenever a threat presents itself, she could easily just lasso whatever the hell is it and kill it?
Why is this thread even here? Why would anyone even ask who can win or lose a fight with her since all it takes for her to win is to lasso them and the threat comes to an end regardless of how strong or weak the person is?
It's not like getting the lasso on someone is automatic, but it is a very powerful weapon that if she gets on someone gives a very telling edge that often spells victory.
Also, she's very powerful even without it. I think your problem is you're looking at it from a Nova-centric PoV. Nova's very strong, but WW's a herald level character as well with a wide variety of threats and powers.
Originally posted by Psychopath001
Why?What I don't understand is why you possibly think she can win?
Nova withstood a full blat from Galactus. The blast destroyed everything for lightyears around. It even completely decimated Annihilus's warships and flagship. Nova survived that, and not only did he survive it, he also created shields for Star-Lord and Phyla Vell so they would survive it as well.
Then lets not forget the fact that his suit repairs his body and itself even during combat (Though not as fast as a healing factor)
What the hell could Wonder Woman possibly do to win? A punch? A kick? Nova's received far worse from people like the Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock/Ultron and was still standing and ready to go.
How can Wonder Woman actually win?
What's wrong with punching and kicking? It's very strong, she's very skilled in melee (one of the most skilled Herald levelers in melee period) and won't use just one or two but keep at it, and while Nova took hits from those people, they did definitely hurt. Wonder Woman won't just let up after one hit.
Also, she has a tiara that can cut through anything. WW slit Superman's throat with it, what make you think the same wouldn't threaten Nova? (people have been talking about the lasso and shields, which it can't really penetrate, but an edged object with a cut-all enchantment may do fine).
Her bracers can produce the lightning of Zeus in powerful blasts, and have blocked Darksied's omega effect, which is rather a more concentrated attack than Galactus's big blast there.
Diana has a variety of ways to win/threats.
Originally posted by Q99
It's not like getting the lasso on someone is automatic, but it is a very powerful weapon that if she gets on someone gives a very telling edge that often spells victory.Also, she's very powerful even without it. I think your problem is you're looking at it from a Nova-centric PoV. Nova's very strong, but WW's a herald level character as well with a wide variety of threats and powers.
You are absolutely right. I AM looking at it from a Nova Centric point of view, but that doesn't mean I am wrong!
She is powerful without the lasso, I even stated it myself. She actually has a better chance of victory using her bracers and other things than she does actually using the lasso.
What's wrong with punching and kicking? It's very strong, she's very skilled in melee (one of the most skilled Herald levelers in melee period) and won't use just one or two but keep at it, and while Nova took hits from those people, they did definitely hurt. Wonder Woman won't just let up after one hit.
Better fighter than Nova, I can agree she is. But I can tell you this much, she will NEVER beat Nova in hand to hand combat. More than anything else, more than anything Nova ever displays, his resilience for pain and the level of difficulty it presents bringing his life to an end is by far his major advantage.
Can Wonder Woman fight Nova hand to hand and be superior at it, yes, because although Nova has been trained by the original Nova Prime as well as Drax the Destroyer, he does not have nearly as much experience with hand to hand combat as she does. But can she win with it?
I say thee nay. Simply because I don't think she is physically capable of killing Nova with her bare hands.
Also, she has a tiara that can cut through anything. WW slit Superman's throat with it, what make you think the same wouldn't threaten Nova? (people have been talking about the lasso and shields, which it can't really penetrate, but an edged object with a cut-all enchantment may do fine).Her bracers can produce the lightning of Zeus in powerful blasts, and have blocked Darksied's omega effect, which is rather a more concentrated attack than Galactus's big blast there.
Diana has a variety of ways to win/threats. [/B]
Also a good point, but if you go back to the incident concerning Galactus's blast, you will notice two things.
1) Nova was protecting two other people at the time of the blast, to make sure their lives weren't brought to an end right then and there.
2) He was not hurt, but not even seriously harmed by the incident.
The lightning Diana calls down may be powerful, but considering Nova has been in the heated core of Galactus's ship's engine room, withstood the blast I referred to earlier at it's most intense, close to Galactus, has been to the core of a dying planet, and has gone hand to hand with the likes of the silver surfer without any significant damage, I think I can say that he is more than capable of surviving several blasts from the bracers lightning (That is my speculation, if the measurements you're giving of the lightning bolts are accurate).
Another fact about Nova you might be interested in knowing. The more of the Nova force he calls on, the harder it is to beat him. Think of it like how the hulk keeps getting angrier and therefore my powerful. Nova gets desperate and reaches deeper and deeper into the Nova force, looking for a solution.
The more of the Nova force he calls on, the more powerful his attacks get, and the faster his suit heals his body and repairs itself.
There was an incident, I think it was during the War of Kings, where Nova was pretty hurt. In two panels ALL the damage was -gone-. Or maybe it was right before the secret invasion, on Galactus's ship... I can't remember precisely.
Diana can win this, but I put her chances of victory waaaaay below 50%.
A fight stopper.
http://img38.imageshack.us/i/nova32lerajecps012.jpg/
Game over.
http://img215.imageshack.us/i/nova25oroborosdcp028.jpg/
http://img4.imageshack.us/i/nova25oroborosdcp029.jpg/
http://img88.imageshack.us/i/nova25oroborosdcp030.jpg/
Or better yet, Diana could end up like this...
http://img529.imageshack.us/i/annihilation1019vu8.jpg/
And this...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Nova2/novagamora.jpg
Originally posted by iceman24567No. And that's kind of a cop out man. We are simply making our case. Looking at some of your statements you seem to believe that Diana wins just by virtue of being Wonder Woman-
That's what I'm getting from the Nova centric group.
I shouldn't be having this argument with a Nova fanatic i have no clue why i am even defending Wonder Woman- That seems to be a more fanboyish stance IMO.
