Dante solos the SF universe because Dante can just use Pandoras Box with 666 different weapons...it has a flash that will destroy everything without leaving a trace...even a laser cannon that is pretty beast...Gilgamesh and Beowulf is also weapons that would give him more strength and speed...DMC 4 final boss was stupid so dont go there...i would say Vergil would be the hardest guy hes faced...and Yamato cuts even through fabric dimensions of space...so Dante solos the SF world...dont forget DT which increases speed strength agility and other thingsnotworthy
DMC's Pandora's Box is a glorified missile launcher with less destructive feats than even a younger incarnation of Akuma. Hell, the GoW Pandora's Box has only one thing in it (that actually counts as being useable in a fight), and it probably puts it above the entirety of DMC, let alone the DMC Pandora's Box.
Also, Akuma holds back a majority of his powers almost 100% of the time fighting just for the sake of giving his opponents a chance at actually putting up something of a challenge. As of now, one of the only character possibly equal or stronger than him is supposedley Gouken, who's entire potential with the "Power of Nothingness" has yet to be concretely determined I believe (IIRC, it nullified Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu the second time he tried it on him). Him, and probably Shin Bison (unless it was that form that Akuma SGS'd in SFII?). In that regard, he's possibly even less serious than Dante in the sense of comparing how much power they exert (especially since Akuma's more commonly pitted against low to mid-level superhumans). Even non-Shin Akuma still has better striking power feats than Dante with Beowulf or Gilgamesh.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
DMC's Pandora's Box is a glorified missile launcher with less destructive feats than even a younger incarnation of Akuma. Hell, the GoW Pandora's Box has only one thing in it (that actually counts as being useable in a fight), and it probably puts it above the entirety of DMC, let alone the DMC Pandora's Box.Also, Akuma holds back a majority of his powers almost 100% of the time fighting just for the sake of giving his opponents a chance at actually putting up something of a challenge. As of now, one of the only character possibly equal or stronger than him is supposedley Gouken, who's entire potential with the "Power of Nothingness" has yet to be concretely determined I believe (IIRC, it nullified Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu the second time he tried it on him). Him, and probably Shin Bison (unless it was that form that Akuma SGS'd in SFII?). In that regard, he's possibly even less serious than Dante in the sense of comparing how much power they exert (especially since Akuma's more commonly pitted against low to mid-level superhumans). Even non-Shin Akuma still has better striking power feats than Dante with Beowulf or Gilgamesh.
QFT.
I need not have to say any more than this, this pretty much sums up the match.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
DMC's Pandora's Box is a glorified missile launcher with less destructive feats than even a younger incarnation of Akuma. Hell, the GoW Pandora's Box has only one thing in it (that actually counts as being useable in a fight), and it probably puts it above the entirety of DMC, let alone the DMC Pandora's Box.Also, Akuma holds back a majority of his powers almost 100% of the time fighting just for the sake of giving his opponents a chance at actually putting up something of a challenge. As of now, one of the only character possibly equal or stronger than him is supposedley Gouken, who's entire potential with the "Power of Nothingness" has yet to be concretely determined I believe (IIRC, it nullified Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu the second time he tried it on him). Him, and probably Shin Bison (unless it was that form that Akuma SGS'd in SFII?). In that regard, he's possibly even less serious than Dante in the sense of comparing how much power they exert (especially since Akuma's more commonly pitted against low to mid-level superhumans). Even non-Shin Akuma still has better striking power feats than Dante with Beowulf or Gilgamesh.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I think there are other SF characters stronger than Shin Akuma.
Like Gill, Ingrid, and possibly Urien and Oro.
Ingrid likely is. At least, she is vastly more powerful if CFE is canon.
As for Oro, hard to say. They both fought in a match that was for all intents and purposes, a sparring contest.
Gill, is debatable.
Urien wouldn't be more powerful than Shin Akuma, if his brother isn't.
Yamato's no more powerful than Rebellion though. a sealed Force Edge would have a better chance, and thats a really big stretch. None of Dante's weapons have the feats to match Gouki's powers anyway.
QS is, as I said, debatable since it's limited, and i'm not sure of Ashura Senkuu nullifying it through intangibility.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yamato's no more powerful than Rebellion though. a sealed Force Edge would have a better chance, and thats a really big stretch. None of Dante's weapons have the feats to match Gouki's powers anyway.QS is, as I said, debatable since it's limited, and i'm not sure of Ashura Senkuu nullifying it through intangibility.
I can't think of anything Akuma can do to defend against an instantaneous grid of time space slashes. And I don't see how the Ashura Senku can help in a time slowed state. If Akuma can beat Dante, then there is no reason why anyone should think he should lose to Algol in the other thread, but that's just my opinion.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Yamoto would dice Akuma into tiny lil pieces before Akuma even knew what happened. QS would slow Akuma down to a crawl and Dante would proceed to abuse him. Dante also has one really retarded item/power in DMC2, that I can't remember, but it's broken as hell.
Jester caught Yamato when Vergil was weakened.
Shin Gouki should be able to do the same against Dante at full strength, seeing as he is likely leagues beyond Jester.
Originally posted by No End N Site
I can't think of anything Akuma can do to defend against an instantaneous grid of time space slashes. And I don't see how the Ashura Senku can help in a time slowed state. If Akuma can beat Dante, then there is no reason why anyone should think he should lose to Algol in the other thread, but that's just my opinion.
Yamato can apparently cut through the fabric of Space (it cuts through dimensional barriers), but it doesn't affect Time in any way. That said, Dante was capable of dodging Vergil's attacks with Yamato, at least, in gameplay. Seeing as Vergil has the ability to use those attacks, he must have used them, and Dante must have avoided them.
A description for one of the moves in Yamato's arsenal states that it can cut through dimensions. srug
I think that moving wave like slash might be an amp of its regular strikes. When Vergil uses Yamato, the range is extended tremendously, fairly greater than the range the blade would normally be capable of having.