Gouki vs. Dante

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Except we already know what kind of damage Saviour can do with single punches on the ground with no blockage.

Look to the actual fights with him, when he punches the ground it creates a bit of rubble around his fist signifying the kind of damage he would be doing to the environment canonically. Like other sorts of cinematic attacks in actual gameplay, the actual damage 'fades' in a bit of time. That is the lone 'gameplay element' argument you could make in this case; the damage disappears whereas we know in a cutscene it would stay.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
[size=1]Seriously by feats, Kratos punches harder than Savior does, let alone Gouki.[/siae]

Kratos isn't beating him, but its not the time or place for that.

Back to Akuma... Gouki.. >_> the one who's not Dante. Assuming Gouki's speed from the trench-kick and powerscaling, Dante is still over 5x faster by the time of DMC3 without the increase from 4/2, items or DT.

Some reasons why Gouki wont hit Dante: Speed difference, teleport, time powers, RG.
Some ways Dante will hurt Gouki: Slice with Yamato for its significantly higher then normal cutting abilities, barrage with [full just charge] Gilgamesh, scorch him to death with Ifrit, use a gauntlet with a sword and of coarse, DT.

Those platforms Dante fights on against Savior are thin. It would be pathetic if he couldn't punch through them.

That's the point! If you acknowledge that he doesn't punch that hard then how can Dante stopping one of his punches be considered so impressive a strength feat? It's a good feat but not as much as a first impression will tell you.

None of Dante's attacks, with any weapon or form, are capable of outputting the sheer force Akuma's own island sinking attack puts out, and obviously he has to have the durability to survive his own attack, so Akuma's durability is at least beyond island breaking.

Originally posted by No End N Site
The Dante hate is truly sickening.

And since when does Kratos punch harder than Akuma?

I for one don't hate him. He's stylish, but at the same time, incredibly cheesy.

He's over-rated though. Not as much as say, Kain or indeed, any LoK character, but still over-rated.

Vergil needs to be in more KMC fights. mmm

Originally posted by iChaos
What the hell does Kratos have to do with this topic? Nevermind that. [b]How the hell did Kratos end in this topic? And lol @ Dante not being able to hurt Kratos. [/B]

Kratos has teh Golden Fleece. biscuits

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Kratos has teh Golden Fleece. biscuits

And Dante has the Royal Guard, so what's your point?

Stupid question: How much can bridges weigh up to?

Originally posted by iChaos
And Dante has the Royal Guard, so what's your point?

Stupid question: How much can bridges weigh up to?

That the Golden Fleece > Royal Guard. biscuits

Modern, or ancient?

I think otherwise but okay.

Modern.

I saw some people trying to argue that Dante will be slicing things up with Yamato and whatnot, and I felt that it was necessary to quote the OP so everyone knows what The Scenario (lolpun) is up to.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Seeing as that lulzy spitey thread devolved into Dante vs. Gouki, I decided to make this one.

- DMC2 Dante. He cannot use Quicksilver. Has no items or Amulets. Does not have access to DDT.

- Gouki (by the time of SFIII).

Round 1: Melee fight only. Dante gets access to Gilgamesh, Ifrit & Beowulf.

Round 2: Dante gets access to every Devil Arm & Firearm he has used (in the games), barring Sparda & Yamato. Gouki starts this round with his full power i.e. He does not enter the round in his 'normal' form.

Originally posted by iChaos
I think otherwise but okay.

Modern.

Royal Guard wouldn't stand up to the Blade of Olympus. The fleece does. 313

The Brooklyn Bridge, a Suspension Bridge, has a total mass of about 15000 tons. The actual deck (suspended part) is about 6600 tons. Those figures are in short tons most likely.

So Dante is just that strong...yeah.

When does he lift an entire suspension bridge? DMC2?

He destroyed one, lol. Anime.

Ahh. Was it a Suspension Bridge? Also, how exactly did he destroy it?

Anyway, an Island >>>> Bridge. 313

Yeh. By shooting it 😆

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Those platforms Dante fights on against Savior are thin. It would be pathetic if he couldn't punch through them.

That's the point! If you acknowledge that he doesn't punch that hard then how can Dante stopping one of his punches be considered so impressive a strength feat? It's a good feat but not as much as a first impression will tell you.

None of Dante's attacks, with any weapon or form, are capable of outputting the sheer force Akuma's own island sinking attack puts out, and obviously he has to have the durability to survive his own attack, so Akuma's durability is at least beyond island breaking.

Then there's nothing besides vs Nero but then they cant go and create large dents on field for each missed strike. [Note the other cracked ground fade animations is only an image as a opposed to an actualy dip in the ground that the punch would (as shown to even when blocked) make]

An impressive strength feat in the DMC verse. Him with a punch as strong as a thousand ton flying brick is enough without his 5/6 strength enhancements.

Not really, a glass cannon guy could uppercut Africa to the moon but still be shot and killed. [Not saying Akuma's a glass cannon, just that it doesnt nessasarily mean mean he can take it.] Oh really;
-A barrage of JustCharge Gilgamesh will damage him, double digits times strength increase with a speed that Akuma wont touch.
-Ifrit bypasses his heat resistance easily. If they touch him he'll burn to death.
-Pandora's Revenge and Omen.
-Gauntlet+Sword, actually I'm not seeing much to say that a sword alone wont work 😐
-Not that it'll come to it, E&I BFR.
Wonder if DT is needed for this.
[Note that Yamato, time powers, Sparda and DDT would end this. Good that the hax things are out.]

Dante will win by simply using Pandoras Box or Gilgamesh...DT will make it a stomp...like someone said in some other thread and i have seen it myself...in the end of DMC3 Vergil was sliced in half by Dante...few seconds later he acted like it never happened...Dante way tougherestahuh

Originally posted by BloodRain
An impressive strength feat in the DMC verse. Him with a punch as strong as a thousand ton flying brick is enough without his 5/6 strength enhancements.

I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about. 😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Can you rephrase this sentence?

I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about. 😐

It may not be an impressive feat in another verse, but it is a great one in the DMC-verse. Dante is able to hit harder then the a thousand+ ton, fast moving object, and without any of his few strength enhancements. And that strength with his other abilities is enough to seriously damage Gouki.

wow, i only read the first page of this thread and i have to say that the biasness towards akuma or gouki or whatever is rediculous.

I have played all the SF games by heart and all DMC games. I really dont think that island destroying or forest destroying or submarine destroying punches, really account for anything. if you havent noticed, those objects are inanimate, they cant think or defend or move even...

i mean if this is the quality of judging someones victory in a match, that is based on an ending movie, than i think we should wait till namco decides to animate an ending movie for pacman which shows him destroying two islands or a large city and you guys will agree that he will win.

or maybe tomorrow there will be a donkey kong reboot where they will show him destroying a full forest or the complete amazon jungle in his ending, i think he will un-disputedly become everyones God here. if these are the standards than any one shown doing anything more powerful than busting 2 submarines is the ultimate bad ass...

ok sarcasm aside, really in a fight alot of things matter. punching still and lifeless ground, not really a combat feat.

as for this thread, anything is possible. but the reason for that possibility is not akuma or gouki or whatever punching some stationary objects.

Oh how you will love it here!

Dante would roast Gouki ass for dinner