Cosmic Avengers vs. JLA

Originally posted by cdtm
Boom tubes are really good battlefield removal options. They can even act as a black hole, sucking characters in.

Nova can stargate people already. And Surfer has created blackholes just as an affect of his battle.

GMH take 6/10 in this. Surfer is a big factor in this while Beta Ray Bill can take it to Orion.

Marvel team for slight majority...IMO they have a tad more offensive capabilities than JLA

For the record they're not called the Cosmic Avengers ^_^

Originally posted by Psychopath001
For the record they're not called the Cosmic Avengers ^_^

Until now this what we will call them, but I think the cosmic avengers have ring ti it. 😉

I'm thinking Ronan gets taken out early. Durability wise, he should be the weak link.

That leaves the door open for a double team on the DC side.. Maybe have Orion and Captain Atom team up on Surfer or something.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm thinking Ronan gets taken out early. Durability wise, he should be the weak link.

That leaves the door open for a double team on the DC side.. Maybe have Orion and Captain Atom team up on Surfer or something.

Well, it depends on how they get paired up really. If Surfer gets paired up against Superman and Quasar gets paired up with one of the energy manipulators (energy siphon ftw), could be a HUGE swing for the GMH side. However, Ronan is the weak link here and could get taken out early, making it a swing for the JLA's side. Thing is, the Worldmind would prolly be scan the combatants and inform the GMH to pair intelligently.

But the JLA team is solid as heck with no weakpoints other than Superman's weakness exploit problem.

Also, using the Boom Tube argument, Nova has actually USED his startgates offensively before. Unless Orion has had instances where he's used the Boom Tubes offensively, that type of argument actually helps the GMH side.

However, I will have to give this to the JLA. 5.5/10. Just no weak links and IF Superman -doesn't- get taken out early (via Surfer weakness exploit) it's almost sure that Ronan will be taken down by just about anyone in the JLA grp...

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
[B]Well, it depends on how they get paired up really. If Surfer gets paired up against Superman and Quasar gets paired up with one of the energy manipulators (energy siphon ftw), could be a HUGE swing for the GMH side. However, Ronan is the weak link here and could get taken out early, making it a swing for the JLA's side. Thing is, the Worldmind would prolly be scan the combatants and inform the GMH to pair intelligently.

Or Mother Box and Hal's GL ring could do the same...

Also, using the Boom Tube argument, Nova has actually USED his startgates offensively before. Unless Orion has had instances where he's used the Boom Tubes offensively, that type of argument actually helps the GMH side.

Orion has, against the Bugs.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
And Surfer has created blackholes just as an affect of his battle.

When? (answer: never)

Originally posted by Desaad
Or Mother Box and Hal's GL ring could do the same...

Worldmind has superior tactical/combat awareness feats. Unless you can post the GL/MB doing some pretty complex situational awareness/tactical analysis feats even remotely close to that of WM's.

Originally posted by Desaad
Orion has, against the Bugs.

Unless it beats Nova tearing apart a TON of Kree Sentries (who are each high meta level at minimum) with a single Stargate, I'd say Nova has the superior stargate offensive feat.

Not sure why you're debating with me, I actually support the JLA taking this.

Originally posted by Desaad
When? (answer: never)

I think what he meant was when Norrin created a large black hole during Annihilation. But that wasn't an aftereffect of a battle tho.

from marvel.com/universe/Ronan

Powers
Can currently adapt his body to survive any hostile environment. Strength-enhancing armor. Generate cold to put certain lifeforms into suspended animation. Render himself 'invisible'.

Weapons
Can disintegrate/transmute/rearrange matter, absorb/project energy blasts, create 'time-motion displacement fields', and achieve interstellar teleportation, using his universal weapon.

certainly not a weak link!

Originally posted by Desaad
When? (answer: never)

When? Annihilation: Surfer #1
Never? Yeah, you never read the book.

Not when he battled Ravenous as D_Dude1210 points out. His jump did create it though.

Originally posted by Sandata
from marvel.com/universe/Ronan

Powers
Can currently adapt his body to survive any hostile environment. Strength-enhancing armor. Generate cold to put certain lifeforms into suspended animation. Render himself 'invisible'.

Weapons
Can disintegrate/transmute/rearrange matter, absorb/project energy blasts, create 'time-motion displacement fields', and achieve interstellar teleportation, using his universal weapon.

certainly not a weak link!

Exactly what I was about to say.

If anyone thinks Ronan is a weak link then you seriously need to go brush up on your marvel knowledge.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
When? Annihilation: Surfer #1
Never? Yeah, you never read the book.

😂

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Worldmind has superior tactical/combat awareness feats. Unless you can post the GL/MB doing some pretty complex situational awareness/tactical analysis feats even remotely close to that of WM's.

Unless it beats Nova tearing apart a TON of Kree Sentries (who are each high meta level at minimum) with a single Stargate, I'd say Nova has the superior stargate offensive feat.

Not sure why you're debating with me, I actually support the JLA taking this.

Mother Box can also scan for enemy weaknesses and danger. Orion has also constructed the Genesis Box, which had universal effecting feat.

GMH FTW.

Surfer & BRB flood the battlefield with red k, then siphon energies from the JLA while the rest run distraction.

Lol it aint CBR

If I had to choose, I'd say CJLA would win 5.5/10.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
If I had to choose, I'd say CJLA would win 5.5/10.

That's what I said! 😛