Star Wars vs. Wanted & Push

Originally posted by AthenasTrgrFngr
can i include eu? 😛

edit- im not trying to argue that anakin can use force crush in this thread, btw

You know the answer to that question. I, personally, don't have a problem with it as EU is just another level of CANON.

Well, I don't remember him using force crush in any of the films (even the Clone Wars CGI movie and the Clone Wars cartoon.)

I do remember it happening well after Anakin had turned into Vader.

The film makes the change quite drastic, for Anakin. He's almost a completely different person. It's a pretty big "OT" thing for the old timers, as well. They like to justify Obi Wan's lies from ANH to Luke.

Originally posted by marwash22
no, not really sneer.

I'm not claiming they're two separate physical beings, but they are different as fighters. If i had said this is Vader, from "RotS"... the only onscreen feat you'd be able to use is the very last scene in the movie. Anakin hardly ever used force choke/crush (i can't distinctly remember him using it at all)... that's pretty much Vader's go to move and it's the first thing he does when he awakens as that persona.

That makes him SUPER bad arse, imo.

And the only reason he lost to Obi Wan was his extreme blind arrogance and Obi Wan had one of the best if not the best defensive saber skills in all of Star Wars.

Anakin Skywalker, right before he turned Dark Side, was one of the best duelists in the Star Wars universe.

He was pretty bad-arse even as Vader, however.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You know the answer to that question. I, personally, don't have a problem with it as EU is just another level of CANON.

Well, I don't remember him using force crush in any of the films (even the Clone Wars CGI movie and the Clone Wars cartoon.)

I do remember it happening well after Anakin had turned into Vader.

The film makes the change quite drastic, for Anakin. He's almost a completely different person. It's a pretty big "OT" thing for the old timers, as well. They like to justify Obi Wan's lies from ANH to Luke.

6:58- 😛

Originally posted by AthenasTrgrFngr
6:58- 😛

I am ashamed. weep

I've seen that episode twice, and I forgot all about it. 🙁

Aaaaaaaaahahaahahahahahaaa!!!!!

Originally posted by marwash22
not really. There's a reason i said Anakin and not Vader.

I disagree.

If that were the case, i wouldn't have added Fox and Wesley. The reason i did add them is so that they could work in tandem with the Movers from 'Push'. Alone, the Movers would get killed because they would be regulated to either use TK gunfire (which travels in a straight line), and which the Jedi could just block and wait for an opening, or use TK flinging which the Jedi could just counter with Force-TK. In combination though, the Movers can do what they do best... move, and the Shooters can... shoot. Fox and Wesley are integral in getting the victory.

Movers TK far surpasses that of Star Wars movies.

The most powerful TK display was Yoda holding that huge coupling, and Sidious tossing Senate pods.

The most powerful display from Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader was when they both tried to use Force Push, and their energies essentially exploded and blew them both across the room. Those two have no TK defense against the Movers, especially when they can TK punch and just blast them and toss them around. On top of that, trying to block TK while they've got the Wanted crew shooting at them is very risky.

The best chance the Jedi have (the only chance, really) is to take out the Pushers right away. If they can force speed over and take out the pushers right away, the Jedi cakewalk the Wanted shooters.

Not likely to happen though. The pushers simply raise their shields and the Wanted shooters blast away.

OP doesn't say how this battle begins. Are they facing each other? Stealth battle? This needs to be stated.

They're in direct line of sight with each other, but on opposite sides of the room.

And what type of room is it? Bare? Warehouse?

You're slippin' RJ, it's in the OP. The room where Yoda fought Palpatine...the area with the pods.

YouTube video

Ah. Then Yoda had better prepare two funeral pyres.

I'm still not sure what Wesley and Fox bring to the table. Sure there bulets fly faster. But there is only two of them (both Jedi can block blaster fire from multiple enemies), lower firing rate, and lower clip size. IMO the Jedi could easily block/evoid the attacks. Both can use the force to instanty rip the guns out of there hands, knock them on their asses, or simply leap at them while blocking the bullets and cutting the wanted members down.

The Movers are far more dangerous. If in that one battle scene they actually are using their sheilds to block blow then I doubt the Jedi can win, the only possibilty I see is the jedi using Mind trick. Thus the Pushers get a moagority. If not them the Jedi win IMO.

The shooters will just be in the movers way.