Originally posted by King Castle
why do you come here for? you post with no knowledge of a character you argue against common knowledge of character constantly which shows you dont keep up with stories or even back stories at the least.your arguments basically consist of:
you: superman cant fly he jumps..
us: umm.. that was like almost 70 yrs ago. he flies now..
you: no he doesnt.
us: yes he does.
hahahaha cosigned.
Originally posted by Starscream Mlogan has cut through solid steel doors with bone claws like butter and you dont think he cant cut a few centimeters of high grade steel which is the outside of the tentacles b/c of the inside being mostly mechanical parts?
I didn't argue that ock has adamantiumbut I said his tentacles today are far stronger than in the past, even though they aren't adamantium. hence that scan of logan easily cutting his tentacles don't really apply today.
logan adamantium will cut it far easier then his bone claws cut steel
Wolverine is NOT as fast as Spider-man. 🤨
But yeah, he will clear most of the Six without much trouble. Tombstone, Scorpion etc are all going down. I only see him losing to Ock. He'll definitely cut a few tentacles but 8 is too much imo. If Ock can grab Spidey he surely can grab Logan. And once Ock gets ahold of his wrists its over.
Originally posted by Starscream MUnless Ock has tenticals made of Carbonadium or Adamantium Logan can easily shred them to peices and no, there's no proof of his arms being faster than Logan's arms.. which they will have to be... by a good deal in order for Logan not to chop them apart... as he as already done so in at least two alternate reality confrontations...
logan can't do jack against ock's arms...which are far faster and stronger than logan
Omega Red's tenticals are even more deadly than Ocks and he can't make use of them against Logan... somehow you think quntity over quality here.. but that doesn't add up.
Punisher, Daredevil, and Cap have all negotiated Ock in close confrontations, one of the only reasons Spiderman doesn't clobber him is because there's usually some emotional investment on Spidey's end when it concerns Ock. 😬
Originally posted by psycho gundamerm.. with prep, maybe. On the regular... nah. He's just not well equipped for tangling with Wolverine, even though his skill set, agility, and strength are nice, one poke and he's pretty much a goner
kraven could make a decent opponent, he won't get a majority but he's not just a speed bump
For the record, Ock has 8 tentacles now and is a cyborg.
Originally posted by jinzinLogan def beats Kraven 10/10 but imo he'll have to work for it every time. "Grim Hunt" Kraven is a beast.
erm.. with prep, maybe. On the regular... nah. He's just not well equipped for tangling with Wolverine, even though his skill set, agility, and strength are nice, one poke and he's pretty much a goner
Originally posted by Juk3nThat's ridiculous though, considering all street levelers do pretty similar feats, *dodging bullets* though none of them except Spiderman should be actually dodging them, and that is only from a distance. Put them all together in the same comic and he's shown to be faster like the avengers. Super speed and high strength in a lean body would beat enhanced/ peak.
In a feat war on a forum it's a negligable difference. Especially combat speed.
In the forum Parker would be even faster due to not holding back as well. To say that simply because of "feats" would be like saying Night Wing, Batman, and everyone else is as fast. (Rehashed ad infinitum).
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's ridiculous though, considering all street levelers do pretty similar feats, *dodging bullets* though none of them except Spiderman should be actually dodging them, and that is only from a distance. Put them all together in the same comic and he's shown to be faster like the avengers. Super speed and high strength in a lean body would beat enhanced/ peak.In the forum Parker would be even faster due to not holding back as well. To say that simply because of "feats" would be like saying Night Wing, Batman, and everyone else is as fast. (Rehashed ad infinitum).
If every speed feat of Spider-man's has been matched or equaled by a skilled street level... then why is he faster? The difference between Spider-man's speed and top level streets is negligible, like the difference between first and last place in the 100 meter dash at the Olympics. That's not how it "should be," that is how it is. When it comes to speed most streets are pushing against the glass ceiling separating human from superhuman, and Spider-man is right on the other side. It is his spider-sense that gives him an advantage.
Wolverine's combat reaction time (moving from a stationary position to attacking an enemy) was listed on panel as being almost 10 times the speed of an average human's twitch reaction time for a finger.