Feminist whining about the wage gap.

Originally posted by shiv
Women have less Grey Matter than Men And less Testosterone. This doesn't exactly give them a big advantage when it comes to tasks which require enterprise and competition.

Women have more white matter, They talk more and place a higher priority on relationships.

If I had a choice between a guy and a girl both 25 and equal in experience and skill, I'd hire the guy.

If you're forced to base your hiring decisions on statistics and averages then the people in charge of checking out new applicants are clearly not doing their jobs.

Originally posted by shiv

The company is paying them whilst they take maternity leave.

So you hate children?

define children.

Originally posted by shiv
define children.

children

1. things shiv hates

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If you're forced to base your hiring decisions on statistics and averages then the people in charge of checking out new applicants are clearly not doing their jobs.

based on fact chum.

based on fact obtained through use of the scientific method.

Originally posted by shiv
based on fact chum.

based on fact obtained through use of the scientific method.

Facts and the scientific method also tell us that individuals vary massively.

Originally posted by Bardock42
children

1. things shiv hates

I do not hate children.

Originally posted by shiv
I do not hate children.

I don't know, the definition is making a pretty convincing point.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Facts and the scientific method also tell us that individuals vary massively.

Facts vary.

A Fact does not vary.

The sun emits electromagnetic radiation. This is a Fact. This is a fact which does not vary. The fact that this fact does not vary is also a Fact.

Originally posted by shiv
Facts vary.

A Fact does not vary.

The sun emits electromagnetic radiation. This is a Fact. This is a fact which does not vary. The fact that this fact does not vary is also a Fact.

What Sym is saying is that if you choose by statistics you choose by an only somewhat related fact. Rather than by facts which are much closer to real use. If you had to decide blindly, statistics would be a good way, but really that's what you said at some point, by saying if other qualifications were equal.

Originally posted by shiv
Facts vary.

A Fact does not vary.

The sun emits electromagnetic radiation. This is a Fact. This is a fact which does not vary. The fact that this fact does not vary is also a Fact.

So, uh, you think that all women are perfect examples of the statistical average? Now, I'll admit the only thing I did to check this was look around me but I think I've gone a long way toward disproving that idea.

A competent department head should actually know things about the people who apply beyond their sex, skill and experience level. Just for example: there are professional women who simply aren't going to have kids, eliminating that problem, and I know a lot of women who are competitive. Background checks or even just interviews will uncover these things and let you move beyond blind guessing aided by statistics.

Originally posted by shiv
It was the kind of post where 9 times out of 10 someone would pick one sentence out of it, highlight it and and start quoting it out of context.

Figured I didn't need the hassle. but it is true Men are at their most powerful and energetic in their 20s
Women hit the peak of their reproductive health in their 20s
Graduates and Apprentices in mid-high earning professions enter the work place in their 20s
Higher earners seeking to rise to the top of their industry create the foundation for their career path in their 20s

Women have less Grey Matter than Men And less Testosterone. This doesn't exactly give them a big advantage when it comes to tasks which require enterprise and competition.

Women have more white matter, They talk more and place a higher priority on relationships.

Men are more likely to put in overtime and work longer 'unsocial' or 'anti-social' hours than the fairer sex.

If I had a choice between a guy and a girl both 25 and equal in experience and skill, I'd hire the guy.

(Two women I work with are on maternity leave, they both gave birth this month) We're fully staffed but we took on people with no experience with how we do business. It means The rest of us have to suffer, work overtime with people who are clueless without missing deadlines and targets.

The company is paying them whilst they take maternity leave.

IMO. I don't see why pay should be equal when committment is unequal.

"is this fun enough for you?"

do you have a reference list?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So, uh, you think that all women are perfect examples of the statistical average?

I believe in standard deviation.
I believe in the study of human biology.

do you know the standard deviation values of the character traits you assigned to men and women?

Originally posted by inimalist
do you know the standard deviation values of the character traits you assigned to men and women?

Originally posted by shiv
I believe in standard deviation.

First you have to know what the standard deviation is for each trait.
Then you have to choose to not hire the ~15% of women more than one standard deviation above normal just because you're lazy.

Originally posted by shiv
I believe in the study of human biology.

So?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Is it 5?

i wouldn't know

shiv brought SDs up in the first place though

Originally posted by inimalist
i wouldn't know

shiv brought SDs up in the first place though

6?

Originally posted by Bardock42
6?

the only thing i might assume is that it will be significantly (as in p </= 0.05) higher in males than females.

9