Uri Boyka runs the Rocky gauntlet

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Uri taking punishment with a hurt knee is more impressive than Uri taking punishment with an injured knee? Explain that, I would love to hear this.

Uri never faced anyone who can punch with....wait for it.....1850 PSI.

And Rocky was KO'd by Lang because he was out of shape and not fighting well. He barely trained. Also he was distracted by Mickey's condition.

Wait what? When did I say it was more impressive? I was saying him being able to carry on is impressive...hurt or injured

How do you know he's never taken on anyways with that much power? The guys he faced never punched a...thingy to tell them the PSI, Rocky has been beaten by weaker men I'm sure

Rocky wasn't only KOed by Lang, he's been beaten before, this was stated in the first Rocky movie

Originally posted by steverules_2
Wait what? When did I say it was more impressive? I was saying him being able to carry on is impressive...hurt or injured

How do you know he's never taken on anyways with that much power? The guys he faced never punched a...thingy to tell them the PSI, Rocky has been beaten by weaker men I'm sure

Rocky wasn't only KOed by Lang, he's been beaten before, this was stated in the first Rocky movie

Has any single one of Uri's foes ever been shown punching with 1850PSI? Nope. Next question.

Has Uri ever been shown taking the damage that Drago or Rocky did? Or Apollo did? For FIFTEEN rounds? Nope, next question.

Rocky had been beaten when he was an untrained goon. In Rocky 3, he was a pro, no longer an amatuer.

BTW: When he KO'd Spider Rico, he did so MMA style 😉 He and Drago both showed that they know how to take an opponent to the ground ✅

Uri would kick Rocky's head of, you can't say Uri can't beat Drago, for all you know he might be able to beat Drago, Rocky had never taken on anyone with 1850PSI before but he still managed to beat Drago so you can't say Uri would lose to Drago let alone Rocky. A kick has a longer reach than a punch and I never saw Drago or Rocky doing a kick, so Uri could easily keep his distance whilst kicking away at either one of them.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Uri would kick Rocky's head of

Rocky had never taken on anyone with 1850PSI before but he still managed to beat Drago

you can't say Uri can't beat Drago, for all you know he might be able to beat Drago,

A kick has a longer reach than a punch and I never saw Drago or Rocky doing a kick, so Uri could easily keep his distance whilst kicking away at either one of them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No. Look at what you just said:

If Drago's 1850PSI punches for fifteen rounds didn't KO Rocky, Uri's kicks won't either.

Wrong. Drago is stronger, faster, longer reach, more damage soak, and FAR more vicious.

Sooner or later Uri would HAVE to get up close and personal. This is when Drago would literally take his life. Kicks aren't that hard to block.

How do you know Rocky 3 Rocky wouldn't be KOed by those punches?

Drago was those things against Rocky but he still lost, so you can't say he'll lose to Uri, there is a chance that Uri could win

Uri could get in nice and close when he's softened Drago up with kicks, and yes Drago could block them but they would still course Damage. Uri could easily go for the legs of Drago or anywhere with those kicks...eventually he'll wear Drago down and go in for the kill.

RJ, you're still standing by the claim that Drago hits at 1850PSI? So, you're just gonna lie, huh?

..what? 😕

Originally posted by steverules_2
How do you know Rocky 3 Rocky wouldn't be KOed by those punches?

Drago was those things against Rocky but he still lost, so you can't say he'll lose to Uri, there is a chance that Uri could win

Uri could get in nice and close when he's softened Drago up with kicks, and yes Drago could block them but they would still course Damage. Uri could easily go for the legs of Drago or anywhere with those kicks...eventually he'll wear Drago down and go in for the kill.

These are world class heavyweight professionals, dude, not some average goons.

Originally posted by marwash22
RJ, you're still standing by the claim that Drago hits at 1850PSI? So, you're just gonna lie, huh?

Stop talking.

http://www.ivandrago.com/

Ivan Drago is a character in the film Rocky IV (1985). He is portrayed by Dolph Lundgren.

Drago is characterized as a tall (6 ft 5 in or 196 cm) and powerful amateur boxing champion from the Soviet Union, as well as a former Olympic gold medalist. He is also a Captain in the Red Army and as seen on his chest, is a recipient of the Hero of the Soviet Union award. He is billed at 261 pounds (118 kg, over 18 ½ stone). Drago’s reputation is that of a superman; he wields a super punch from 1850 to 2150 psi whereas the average psi for a boxer is 800psi-1,000psi. Drago is carefully fitted and trained to be the consummate fighter, with his heart rate and punching power constantly measured via computers during his workouts. Drago is seen receiving injections in the movie (presumably anabolic steroids, though this is never explicitly stated).

AND it's right there in the movie, the computer measures it at 1850PSI. You feel stupid yet?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Rocky's chin didn't get stronger as the movies went on, dude. Think about it. Look at the beating Apollo gave him in 2. Tony, Apollo's trainer, even told Apollo that he had never seen a man beat like Rocky was beat in 1.

This, sir, is a testament to Rocky's durability, and further proof that Uri does not have what it takes to KO Rocky. Just because person A beats B, then person B beats C, doesn't mean person A beats person C.

I'm not saying Uri has NO chance, just that Drago and Rocky are too much for him, 99 times out of 100.

These are world class heavyweight professionals, dude, not some average goons.

I never said it was stronger, but your using Rocky 3 Rocky...yet you talk about Rocky 4 Rocky...why? Uri's taking on Rocky from the third film not the 4th.

But of course, but you were saying how Drago's stronger and stuff and saying thats why he beats Uri...but thats like saying Drago should've beaten Rocky because he was also those things with Rocky. The statement you just made is fine but the one before wasn't because Drago was stronger and stuff when it came to Rocky but that still didn't stop Rocky from winning, what I was saying was those things may not stop Uri from winning.

I know that, I never said they were goons but Uri isn't exactly a goon himself, he's well trained in MMA, you saw, you posted the clip of how well he can fight, Uri isn't an average goon and he took on a boxer in the second movie, had the boxer not been trained on that submission hold then he would have lost. Uri has showed he can go up against boxers and hold his own, the guy wasn't able to KO him.

Originally posted by steverules_2
I never said it was stronger, but your using Rocky 3 Rocky...yet you talk about Rocky 4 Rocky...why? Uri's taking on Rocky from the third film not the 4th.

But of course, but you were saying how Drago's stronger and stuff and saying thats why he beats Uri...but thats like saying Drago should've beaten Rocky because he was also those things with Rocky. The statement you just made is fine but the one before wasn't because Drago was stronger and stuff when it came to Rocky but that still didn't stop Rocky from winning, what I was saying was those things may not stop Uri from winning.

I know that, I never said they were goons but Uri isn't exactly a goon himself, he's well trained in MMA, you saw, you posted the clip of how well he can fight, Uri isn't an average goon and he took on a boxer in the second movie, had the boxer not been trained on that submission hold then he would have lost. Uri has showed he can go up against boxers and hold his own, the guy wasn't able to KO him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If Rocky 4 Rocky took the punches, Rocky 3 could too.

Again: Just because person A beats B, then person B beats C, doesn't mean person A beats person C.

Was the boxer a heavyweight champion of the world? Could the boxer punch with 1850 PSI?

How do you know? I think the work out he did and the way he pushed himself in 4 was why he made it through and won, like Duke said 'You're gonna have to go through hell.' Rocky 3 'didn't go through hell.'

I never said that because Rocky won that Uri would win, I'm just saying the reasons you stated wouldn't stop Uri from winning.

Yes the boxer was the undisputed heavyweight boxing championFrom wikipedia:

George "Iceman" Chambers, the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion of the world

Did he have a 1850PSI? How the hell am I supposed to know? He never hit a measurement thing to check how hard he could punch

Originally posted by steverules_2
Did he have a 1850PSI? How the hell am I supposed to know? He never hit a measurement thing to check how hard he could punch

Answer is no, non of the fighters in Undisputed were portrayed to be super-human.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
To answer the question, unless Bone can take a beating like Rocky Balboa can, then yeah, IF Drago connects with one of his superhuman 1850PSI punches, Bone goes down. Anyone, unless they have damage soak like Balboa, or even the Pikey.

Have you watched that film? Had some of the worst fight choreography, people slowing down and waiting for Bone to hit them.

Considering that, Drago would get in and level Bone before Bone prepared one attack.

Originally posted by Robtard
Answer is no, non of the fighters in Undisputed were portrayed to be super-human.

I guess so lulface

Originally posted by steverules_2

Did he have a 1850PSI? How the hell am I supposed to know? He never hit a measurement thing to check how hard he could punch

Originally posted by Robtard
Have you watched that film? Had some of the worst fight choreography, people slowing down and waiting for Bone to hit them.

Considering that, Drago would get in and level Bone before Bone prepared one attack.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes, he did.

Well if you know why are you asking me?

I thought you were asking me, carrot top.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Let's cover the leg kick thing first.

Have you ever been in a fight with a martial artist? Or even sparred with one?

Sparred yes, real fight no.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
His leg was fine at the beginning of each fight, he was able to stand on it, walk on it without limping, and land on it after kicking. It was only after each fight that it hurt, or when the Colombian exploited it.

1850PSI, dude.

Its called adrenaline, a lot of athletes can play through injuries at near 100%

I easily played through a sprained ankle/wrist and a fractured wrist in football without showing the other team it is injured, unless of course it is heavily wrapped or the cast in the case of my wrist or someone falls on my ankle or something of the sorts. Doesn't mean that at points it didn't hurt or I was at 100% but I definately didn't feel it as much until after the game.

Uri was doing it after having his leg broken, pretty much at the knee cap point with little rehabilitation or support and was still doing all of those stunts, that is a high level of human endurance and feats, but it wasn't only after each fight that he actually showed the pain from his leg, he showed it in his first fight of the movie in just his stance alone and DURING the other fights at the tournament.

Since you're so persistent on the 1850 PSI, please show me any boxer, matter of fact any fighter who punched/kicked at their full utmost power in every single hit. Drago hits hard yes, Drago doesn't normally get the time to set up a punch in a match like he did on a machine, so he isn't going to be hitting that hard everytime.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Has any single one of Uri's foes ever been shown punching with 1850PSI? Nope. Next question.

BTW: When he KO'd Spider Rico, he did so MMA style 😉 He and Drago both showed that they know how to take an opponent to the ground ✅

They have never been shown punching a machine to measure their hitting power but, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Not saying they did probably hit one, but to accuse them of not being able to hit hard cause they didn't isn't too good of a point.

I don't see what was MMA like about that. It was pretty much a normally boxing match, he KO'd the guy and then kept punching him while he was KO'd on the ground. So you consider beating an unconscious opponent on the ground, who also happens to have no sort of ground game at all which may as well be irrelevant due to the fact that he was KO'd anyway, as an example of ground game?