Smoking in work places!

Started by ADarksideJedi5 pages

Smoking in work places!

I had looked but did not see anything on this.If anyone has you can close it.Anyway where work we can smoke outside behind the building, but I know some places like hospitals and such has no smoking what so ever.
Do you think this is unfair or right?

I mostly think it should be up to the employer. Or the owner of the buildings.

True but even hospitals would not hire anyone who smokes at all.and I don't think that is right.Sorry off topic.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
True but even hospitals would not hire anyone who smokes at all.and I don't think that is right.Sorry off topic.

I don't think hospitals discriminate smokers, they just don't let them smoke on their property, no?

if you run a hospital, different regulations about who you can hire should exist than with hiring for an office job.

edit: or what bardock said

Heh, is my post rendered useless since someone else already covered its point?

I agree with Bardock42 on this one. As long as the employer isn't in conflict with any laws in place, the employer should decide.

-Edited for clarity.

No it is a new law that inleast in PA that anyone who smokes can not be hired by the hospital at all.As for this topic being covered there is still room for people to argee or disargee.
Franky I think it is wrong if the boss of the company would not let anyone smoke even in there car or far from the grounds.

I was unaware of that law. Would you mind linking us to that?

That seems interesting, and I am not sure I agree with a law like that.

Tomorrow I will send you a link I have to get going home or I am going to get soak in the rain.

It should be up to whomever owns the building. Public hospitals shouldn't be allowed to allow smoking in the building but I'm not sure about hiring smokers.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think hospitals discriminate smokers, they just don't let them smoke on their property, no?
Gotta be outside, and like twentyish feet from the door.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Gotta be outside, and like twentyish feet from the door.

So they don't let them smoke on their property, at least not inside or close to inside. I don't see a problem with that, really.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So they don't let them smoke on their property, at least not inside or close to inside. I don't see a problem with that, really.
Neither do I.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I had looked but did not see anything on this.If anyone has you can close it.Anyway where work we can smoke outside behind the building, but I know some places like hospitals and such has no smoking what so ever.
Do you think this is unfair or right?
It's illegal here in the UK for a company to allow smoking in a working environment, just as it is in any indoor public location. We have the same ban that is in a lot of countries.

As a non-smoker I like the bans. Especially when it comes to bars and pubs. I couldn't even it imagine going back to the way it was before.

England's:

Smoking became banned in indoor public places in England, including workplaces, bars, clubs and restaurants, from 1 July 2007. Some places, such as certain smoking hotel rooms, nursing homes, prisons, submarines, offshore oil rigs, and stages/television sets (if needed for the performance) are excluded. Palaces were also excluded,[135] although members of the House of Commons and the House of Lords agreed to ban all smoking in the Palace of Westminster.[136] The on-the-spot fine for smoking in a workplace is £50 (~€70/~$100), £30 (~€45/~$60) if one pays within 15 days, while a business that allows it can be fined £2,500 (~€3,700/~$5,000). Smoking will be allowed to continue anywhere outdoors.[137] However, a confidential government briefing obtained by The Independent on Sunday newspaper reveals that provisions are in place for extending the ban to outdoor areas

What qualifies as a working environment under that law?

When did the law go into effect?

Edit: Ha, you answered my questions as I typed them. You're good people, SP0oONY.

Laws were introduced at different times in Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland but the laws themselves are pretty much the same thing.

I don't like walking outside to get some fresh air and then I'm smacked in the face with some nasty-ass, rank, second-hand smoke.

I wish they would ban smoking in any location except for inside your own home. That includes skunk weed, as well.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't like walking outside to get some fresh air and then I'm smacked in the face with some nasty-ass, rank, second-hand smoke.

I wish they would ban smoking in any location except for inside your own home. That includes skunk weed, as well.

Smoking, because of the potential risks to others is actually one of the drugs I could see myself supporting such a thing. However I think that is should ultimately be up to the owner of a particular place, for example a bar or restaurant.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't like walking outside to get some fresh air and then I'm smacked in the face with some nasty-ass, rank, second-hand smoke.

I wish they would ban smoking in any location except for inside your own home. That includes skunk weed, as well.

That doesn't really bother me that much. Busy bars/clubs usually have separate smoking areas just off the exit so you don't get hit by the wall of smoke.

It is nice to not even have to think about whether a bar/pub has a non-smoking area though. I remember when I was younger hating walking through the smoking area of a busy pub before getting to the non-smoking area (which was still pretty smoky).

Originally posted by §P0oONY
That doesn't really bother me that much. Busy bars/clubs usually have separate smoking areas just off the exit so you don't get hit by the wall of smoke.

It is nice to not even have to think about whether a bar/pub has a non-smoking area though. I remember when I was younger hating walking through the smoking area of a busy pub before getting to the non-smoking area (which was still pretty smoky).

It just so happens that I'm an ***hole when it comes to smoking because of the nose-bleeds and bronchitis it gave me as a child. Usually, I am all for as much liberties as possible...having some libertarian sympathies, of course.

If i were to be unbiased, I'd say that if a place, other than a home, wanted smoking on campus, they should have a room specifically for it, separate in every way from the facility, to avoid the second-hand smoke conundrum.

Edit - lol! I thought a 'non-smoking' area of any joint was the stupidest thing, ever, as a kid. It didn't make a shit of difference. 😆