I disagree, for that very reason. Consider: the statement says "human being" rather than "organic beings." Are we to conclude that General Grievous's speed > every Force-wielding human, regardless of power, but that there are alien species whose natural speed surpass Force-wielding humans, such as Obi-Wan?
I doubt it.
Just because the sentence doesn't include other species' doesn't mean that he isn't faster than other species'. There is nothing there that even hints that the narrator means what you think it could, at all. Now i'm going to tell you the same thing I told my PE couch, No means No. As in, absolutely not one, period. It's canon. I'm putting my foot down.
I didn't want to have to do that.
It'd be a little silly to take that passage as gospel about Sidious' speed, considering he's nowhere to be mentioned. The author (like the mythos' creator) is subject to mistake and shortsightedness.
Though I'd be fine with a super-cyborg being physically faster than Sidious; Sidious arms may not be able to do what Grievous' can, but his Force-aided sight and precog. trump that any time.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually, that may not be so. Hang on, I need to check the perspective of the ROTS novel.'The electrodrivers that powered Grievous's limbs could move them faster than the human eye can see; when he swung his arm, it and his fist and the lightsaber within it would literally vanish: wiped from existence by sheer mind-numbing speed, an imitation quantum event. [b]No human being could move remotely as fast as Grievous, not even Obi-Wan-but he didn't have to.'
Discuss.
If it helps, this is the indication of perspective-
'This is Obi-Wan Kenobi in the light:'
So the question is: 'Omniscient narrator or Kenobi's perspective?' [/B]
I dunno Nep. The human eye can perceive something like 24 frames per second, and I can definitely perceive 3-5 strikes per second from each arm, so to say "faster than the human can see" is an exaggeration. Therefore, no matter who's perspective this is from, it is fallible.
Originally posted by Zampanó
But you're using the viewframe of a camera. It is likely that the recording device is taking shots at more than 25 fps given the advances in the film industry.
Zampano, what I'm saying is that the novelization states 20 strikes per second. According to Nep, the narration dictates that GG attacks faster "than the human eye can see." It's a fact that most humans can perceive up to 23 frames per second. 23>20. Therefore, the narration that Nep refers to is fallible.
Zampano, what I'm saying is that the novelization states 20 strikes per second. According to Nep, the narration dictates that GG attacks faster "than the human eye can see." It's a fact that most humans can perceive up to 23 frames per second. 23>20. Therefore, the narration that Nep refers to is fallible.
Or Grevious wasn't going as fast as he could, seeing as he was directly stated that he was getting faster. Or Human eyes are different in the SWverse.
In the novel? Its just after Palpatine admits to being a Sith to Anakin and Anakin spazes and runs off.
Or y'know, i could just post it:
'The electrodrivers powering Grievous's mechanical arms let each of the four attack thrice in a single second; integrated by combat algorithms in the bio-droid's electronic network of peripheral processors, each of the twelve strikes per second came from a different angle with different speed and intensity, an unpredictably broken rhythm of slashes, chops, and stabs of which every single one could take Obi-Wan's life. Not one touched him.
After all, he had often walked unscathed through hornet-swarms of blasterfire, defended only by the Force's direction of his blade; countering twelve blows per second was only difficult, not impossible. His blade wove an intricate web of angles and curves, never truly fast but always just fast enough, each motion of his lightsaber subtly interfering with three or four or eight of the general's strikes, the rest sizzling past him, his precise, minimal shifts of weight and stance slipping them by centimeters.
Grievous, snarling fury, ramped up the intensity and velocity of his attacks-sixteen per second, eighteen-until finally, at twenty strikes per second, he overloaded Obi-Wan's defense. So Obi-Wan used his defense to attack. A subtle shift in the angle of a single parry brought Obi-Wan's blade in contact not with the blade of the oncoming lightsaber, but with the handgrip. -slice-
The blade winked out of existence a hairbreadth before it would have burned through Obi-Wan's forehead. Half the severed lightsaber skittered away, along with the duranium thumb and first finger of the hand that had held it.
Grievous paused, eyes pulsing wide, then drawing narrow. He lifted his maimed hand and stared at the white-hot stumps that held now only half a useless lightsaber.'
Though personally I think the whole scenes non-canon anyway.
I meant this:
'The electrodrivers that powered Grievous's limbs could move them faster than the human eye can see; when he swung his arm, it and his fist and the lightsaber within it would literally vanish: wiped from existence by sheer mind-numbing speed, an imitation quantum event. No human being could move remotely as fast as Grievous, not even Obi-Wan-but he didn't have to.'
Gonna point out the obvious, because I'm sick of you continuing to say this baseless thing.
Grievous had "20 strikes" a second. A "frame" as you keep pointing out, is a STILL IMAGE. Grievous physically struck 20 times. That means blows. That means all the way up and all the way down. That does not mean 20 still images.
Obviously if a cartoonist was going to draw the thing, a "strike" would take more than one "frame" to show.
Canon wins, you lose.
Originally posted by truejedi
Gonna point out the obvious, because I'm sick of you continuing to say this baseless thing.Grievous had "20 strikes" a second. A "frame" as you keep pointing out, is a STILL IMAGE. Grievous physically struck 20 times. That means blows. That means all the way up and all the way down. That does not mean 20 still images.
Obviously if a cartoonist was going to draw the thing, a "strike" would take more than one "frame" to show.
Canon wins, you lose.
TJ, who are you talking to? Me? If so, I don't think you understand the concept here. In short, the point is that 20 strikes per second is NOT faster than the human eye can perceive. Do your own research and find out for yourself. If you weren't addressing me, then my bad, but the point remains.