Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI've seen nothing myself. Nothing that would lead me to believe she can put down Odin and his impressive durability or THanos with his durability and shielding quickly. Odin would be the raw power to combat her raw power.. and thanos would be the pesky person... firing blast at DP from behind and trying to TP rape her while doing so.
If consuming a Star is her greatest feat, I'd need to see a pretty convincing argument as to why Odin wouldn't dismiss this incarnation with a flick of his hand on a good day.
Dark Phoenix would win.
We are talking about one the Primal Forces of the Universe, a Cosmic Abstract vs. Skyfater. Contrast to popular belief the last incarnation of the Dark Phoenix is the one seen in Here Comes Tomorrow or Phoenix End Song.
What is being overlooked is the fact that the Phoenix Entity carries over memories since the dawn of time, and all possible futures. You cant really define Dark Phoenix by just the Dark Phoenix Saga or restrict it to just the Sun Eating feat.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I've seen nothing myself. Nothing that would lead me to believe she can put down Odin and his impressive durability or THanos with his durability and shielding quickly. Odin would be the raw power to combat her raw power.. and thanos would be the pesky person... firing blast at DP from behind and trying to TP rape her while doing so.
Hold on, are we actually on the same side here!?
Originally posted by "Id"
Dark Phoenix would win.We are talking about one the Primal Forces of the Universe, a Cosmic Abstract vs. Skyfater. Contrast to popular belief the last incarnation of the Dark Phoenix is the one seen in Here Comes Tomorrow or Phoenix End Song.
What is being overlooked is the fact that the Phoenix Entity carries over memories since the dawn of time, and all possible futures. You cant really define Dark Phoenix by just the Dark Phoenix Saga or restrict it to just the Sun Eating feat.
If that's your opinion....that's uh fine.
I hate those kind of arguments.
I restrict them mostly to the eras they appear in when it comes to characters like the Phoenix. Too much fluctuation under too many writers.
For the record, Odin's best is destroying Galaxies and rocking the fabric of the Multiverse, creating an entire dimension with it's own set of Gods using residual magic, altering the reality of mainstream Marvel. His rogue persona was threatening the Universe -I think this might have been retconned to be Infinity in Quasar- and he reversed the effects it caused easily. And I guess being called an equal to Galactus would be a feat currently.
Just trying to point out that Odin's best, are pretty good.
The same can be said about Odin, in regards to his fluctuating power levels due to the writers…..well anyone who been around long enough.
The difference is Odin has stayed Odin, while they keep on stacking more depth, and complexity to the Phoenix Mythos. This forces you to segregate each Phoenix by Era or Avatar overlooking what the comic has established. Just keep note that the while the avatars may vary, the entity always remains a constant.
I see people keep mentioning Odin "destroying galaxies" when has this happened?
Odin + Zeus + Vishnu couldn't even make Arshiem the Celestial flinch. Jean Grey using a sliver of Phoenix Force to marshal the combined pysches of a planet destroyed Arshiem's "Hand of Judgment".
The full blown Phoenix Force can destroy universes. This has been shown repeatedly on panel.
Odin and Thanos stand no chance.
Originally posted by 753
DP.A lot of abstarcts lack combat feats, but knowing what they are and where they sit in the cosmic hierarchy should be enough when they are matched against skyfathers.
For starters, Surtur destroyed the core of a dead galaxy under Simonson, before infusing it with the Cask of Ancient Winters.
And I know Odin battled another Skyfather level being, and their combined efforts were leveling galaxies across multiple dimensions... I think it was Set, but the more knowledgeable fans should know this feat cold..
Originally posted by janus77
Thanos isn't far behind Odin in power (and likely has the better defensive tech/shields). if Odin is a fight, then Thanos would be too.
Thanos is solidly trans tier, Odin is high skyfather with feats that Thanos doesn't even have in his best dreams.
Dark Phoenix >> Odin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanos.