Nova Prime vs Green Lantern (Kyle)

and yet both don't show powerfully raw offensive output. how do u know him overloading OA is not connected to him being a GL with a power ring? you said ureself it had "ambient" Oan energy. and yes i did know the power battery was depleted. the supernova thing is even less impressive than the Oan thing. on panel clearly states he "triggered" it. Not just out and out blew up a sun. clearly shows he was more concerned with holding the explosion as was shown in his own face on panel while doubting and saying "no way is the ring powerful enough to hold down an exploding sun". I gave him credit for holding off the blast and not the triggering of the explosion.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
and yet both don't show powerfully raw offensive output. how do u know him overloading OA is not connected to him being a GL with a power ring? you said ureself it had "ambient" Oan energy. and yes i did know the power battery was depleted. the supernova thing is even less impressive than the Oan thing. on panel clearly states he "triggered" it. Not just out and out blew up a sun. clearly shows he was more concerned with holding the explosion as was shown in his own face on panel while doubting and saying "no way is the ring powerful enough to hold down an exploding sun". I gave him credit for holding off the blast and not the triggering of the explosion.

Originally posted by "Id"
Oh wow look, apparently blowing up a planet is not a good sign of raw offensive output. Seriously can you not correlate between what is being said, and shown on panel? What connections can you possibly draw in Kyle blowing up planet OA in such a manner? Planet OA does not produce Oan energies, meaning there is no of outpouring of cosmic energy. I don’t feel the need to even explain to you what the word [b]Ambient means. srsly [/B]

glad you agree with me on the solaris thing. =P (btw what issue of JLA was that? I know I've read that one, but I just want to make sure on my stance that him triggering the explosion was hugely plot driven and not a show of flat out offensive power)

back on the Oan thing, he even says to Parallax, "you said this PLANET is the SOURCE of your POWER. It acts like a BATTERY for you. Batteries can be OVERLOADED." the writer even put those specific words on bold. I'm pretty sure he is trying to convey a connection between OA and the nature of a GL's power.

anyways, what does manipulating a planet's energies to overload and then causing it to blow up going to do to Nova? with the time it takes to put that kind of charge on something Nova would have KO'ed him the eff out in a blink of an eye...

Nova at one time absorbed so much energy that when he released it, it lit up the entire solar system like a second star. It was pretty awesome at the time, considering it was the 90's and all.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
glad you agree with me on the solaris thing. =P (btw what issue of JLA was that? I know I've read that one, but I just want to make sure on my stance that him triggering the explosion was hugely plot driven and not a show of flat out offensive power)

Yes he triggered a Supernova by blasting Solaris core. Who gives a shit if you think its plot driven or not. The focal point is what Kyle can do at a given time with his blast.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

back on the Oan thing, he even says to Parallax, "you said this PLANET is the SOURCE of your POWER. It acts like a BATTERY for you. Batteries can be OVERLOADED." the writer even put those specific words on bold. I'm pretty sure he is trying to convey a connection between OA and the nature of a GL's power.

anyways, what does manipulating a planet's energies to overload and then causing it to blow up going to do to Nova? with the time it takes to put that kind of charge on something Nova would have KO'ed him the eff out in a blink of an eye...

Are you done down playing Kyle’s feats? Because we still have to cover Kyle superior defenses, speed, versatility etc..

Originally posted by "Id"
Yes he triggered a Supernova by blasting Solaris core. Who gives a shit if you think its plot driven or not. The focal point is what Kyle can do at a given time with his blast.

Yes he made reference to planet OA, using an Analogy. At [b]NO point did Kyle actually manipulate any energy, if so Kyle would have manipulated the energy freely with out the need to actually pump the planet with his blast. uggh

Are you done down playing Kyle’s feats? Because we still have to cover Kyle superior defenses, speed, versatility etc.. [/B]

In terms of straight line speed, there's a quote from Superman in Circle of Fire calling Kyle their fastest flier.

And did Kyle even know he could warp/teleport? (No ring computer, no training, so he was basically left to figure stuff out on his own..)

Because if not, he must have traveled to Oa's location, in the center of the universe, the hard way.

Originally posted by "Id"
Yes he triggered a Supernova by blasting Solaris core. Who gives a shit if you think its plot driven or not. The focal point is what Kyle can do at a given time with his blast.

Yes he made reference to planet OA, using an Analogy. At [b]NO point did Kyle actually manipulate any energy, if so Kyle would have manipulated the energy freely with out the need to actually pump the planet with his blast. uggh

Are you done down playing Kyle?s feats? Because we still have to cover Kyle superior defenses, speed, versatility etc.. [/B]

Originally posted by dmills
Superior defenses and speed? Uh, no. No way. I'll give you versatility though.

Prove it with feats. 🙂

That's what his respect thread is for 🙂

Originally posted by "Id"
Oh wow look, apparently blowing up a planet is not a good sign of raw offensive output. Seriously can you not correlate between what is being said, and shown on panel? What connections can you possibly draw in Kyle blowing up planet OA in such a manner? Planet OA does not produce Oan energies, meaning there is no of outpouring of cosmic energy. I don’t feel the need to even explain to you what the word [b]Ambient means. [/B]

It's not straight up planet busting.

Originally posted by dmills
Superior defenses and speed? Uh, no. No way. I'll give you versatility though.

When Nova can create a shield strong enough to contain the Big Bang, I'll consider his defenses on par with Kyle's.

As far as speed, he does it relaxed and in style

Originally posted by "Id"
[B]Green Lantern: The New Corps #1
Traveling at speeds, greater then photon . Kyle has crossed, thousands of parsecs or multiple light years.

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I've looked through the respect thread. He seems to be a physical beast with some grav powers. Kyle has that + everything else. 😬

Honestly, show us what you think makes Nova more powerful than Kyle. You know him better than I do, but Im basing it off what Ive seen in the respect thread and the truth is, in a forum fight, very few physical guys can beat a GL.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
When Nova can create a shield strong enough to contain the Big Bang, I'll consider his defenses on par with Kyle's.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
When Nova can create a shield strong enough to contain the Big Bang, I'll consider his defenses on par with Kyle's.

As far as speed, he does it relaxed and in style

I've looked through the respect thread. He seems to be a physical beast with some grav powers. Kyle has that + everything else. 😬

Honestly, show us what you think makes Nova more powerful than Kyle. You know him better than I do, but Im basing it off what Ive seen in the respect thread and the truth is, in a forum fight, very few physical guys can beat a GL.

Originally posted by dmills
Nova is a legit high herald with the potential to amp beyond that.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
When Nova can create a shield strong enough to contain the Big Bang, I'll consider his defenses on par with Kyle's.

In Nova's defense, surviving Galactus's temper tantrum is pretty impressive.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Kyle overloading the core of Oa is as planet-busting a feat as would Superman overloading the engine core of Warworld with his heat vision.

It's not straight up planet busting.

It is strait up planet busting, because the planet was strait up destroyed. Your just nitpicking between your own classification or ideals of with quote on quote “Planet Busting“.

^ Arguing that Kyle can bust planets because Kyle destroyed Oa makes as much sense as saying X-Wing fighters can bust small moons because a single X-Wing fighter destroyed the Death Star.

nono

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Arguing that Kyle can bust planets because Kyle destroyed Oa makes as much sense as saying X-Wing fighters can bust small moons because a single X-Wing fighter destroyed the Death Star.

nono

Not really. The Death Star was destroyed because of a reactor breach, basically.

Oa was destroyed because Kyle pumped so much energy into it's core, it exploded. Two entirely different things there.

^ Fixed:

Originally posted by cdtm
Not really. The Death Star was destroyed because of a reactor breach, basically... which overloaded the reactor core, causing a chain reaction that blew up the Death Star

Oa was destroyed because Kyle pumped so much energy into it's core, it exploded... which overloaded the battery-like core, causing a chain reaction that blew up Oa. Two entirely different things there that are not entirely different.

The end result was the same, but one is exploiting a weakness, while the other is a pure power showing.

To overload the core of Oa is a display of insane energy output.