I only know Kyle from GL corps. In that book he did little more then use constructs and energy blasts 99% of the time. Things that Nova would bust out of without much trouble. Unless his portrayal in Corps radically differs from his appearances in other current lantern books then I see Rich beating him more often then not.
After Morrison, the JLA isn't really the best place for feats unless it's Batman..
He's done things when he was main GL in the main GL book from emp pulses to electrical attacks, to creating moons and small planets, to controlling beings made of energy... A lot more outside the box thinking than Hal was known for as main GL, for sure.
Originally posted by dmills
I only know Kyle from GL corps. In that book he did little more then use constructs and energy blasts 99% of the time. Things that Nova would bust out of without much trouble. Unless his portrayal in Corps radically differs from his appearances in other current lantern books then I see Rich beating him more often then not.
Richard isn't easily dealing with Green Lantern constructs or energy blasts. Not from an extremely skilled and strong willed one like Kyle.
Get out of here with that shit.
Originally posted by cdtm
After Morrison, the JLA isn't really the best place for feats unless it's Batman..He's done things when he was main GL in the main GL book from emp pulses to electrical attacks, to creating moons and small planets, to controlling beings made of energy... A lot more outside the box thinking than Hal was known for as main GL, for sure.
That may well be. Is this Nova prime vs a composite version of Kyle Rayner or Nova prime vs the most current iteration of Kyle? If its the latter, I'm just saying from what I've read currently, I'm not seeing it. Kyle *at least under Bedard* seemed to go with non exotic type procedures 99% of the time. Even against high end threats like the Weaponeer. Nova is made to counter that stuff.
Most of the time if Rich is in a tight bind he goes full body pulse to bust out.
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I also recall the Weaponeer exploiting weaknesses in Kyle's constructs using his computer shield thingy (kinda iffy since Kyle's constructs are supposed to be more indepth and detailed then most GL's, but still cannon nonetheless). I wouldn't bet against the WM being able to provide Rider with that kind of info. And according to Rider, his gravity control is so precise that he could dismantle a sand storm grain by grain.
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Even hit people through their own fields with compressed pulses
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Full body pulse to break out of uber class 100 strength + energy drain stack...
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If Kyle starts digging deep into his bag of tricks I guess he could start pulling out tricks that Rider can't counter, but going by their respective methods of operation, I don't see that happening.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Richard isn't easily dealing with Green Lantern constructs or energy blasts. Not from an extremely skilled and strong willed one like Kyle.Get out of here with that shit.
Nova when dealing with energy blasts 99% of the time they get blocked, deflected, absorbed or dodged. He feels the impact to a degree, but as I said he *doesn't and won't have much trouble with them*. That shit doesn't suddenly change because the opponents name is Kyle.
You interjecting the word "easily" into the conversation is your baggage, not mine.
Examples of Nova *not having much trouble* dealing with energy attacks and constructs...
Quick shield and reflex blast.
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Punches him hard enough to feel it through his protective hue...
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Lethal force repulsar blasts and tentacle construct cheapshot
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Cheapshot quantum blast. Destroys Darkhawk, Rider tanks it.
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*Side note regarding "Evil" Quasar. He's confirmed on panel -by the Worldmind no less- to be the equal of Wendell in terms of raw power. That doesn't mean that he necessarily has Wendell's heart, will or skill. But it does speak unequivocally to his power level.
Continued...
Shields himself and others from Quasar's energy blast that fried a contingent of Super skrulls.
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Shields himself from Surfer's blast at close range.
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Speaking of "willpower"...
Comatose. Body ravaged by the transmode virus. Buried with his body completely entombed by the phalanx. At a fraction of his full power.
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Battles the transmode virus construct...
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Near death. Looks at Death and her Avatar, smiles, and they smile back. Better luck next time byatch...
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Originally posted by "Id"Does it retain any of its amps that made it special, i.e., can never be fully drained? No.
This one is for all those fools arguing Kyle didn't have the same special ring, since his solo run. New Guardians 3 confirms Kyle still retains his "original", and always had.
http://imageshack.us/f/404/glng03012copy.jpg/
Was there just another DC-wide retcon that may or may not have changed history? Yes, Flashpoint.
Did that DC-wide retcon have an effect on Kyle's history? Yes, it did. Despite what others may say, Ganthet originally disappeared mysteriously right after bestowing it to Kyle before Kyle even donned the ring. In the New 52, Ganthet seems to have stuck around to watch Kyle cut his teeth on the ring.
Is the New 52 reliable in figuring out whether Kyle still retains his original ring's amps before the New 52 or after the New 52 (or anything else for that matter)? No (and no for other things like GLs not being able to teleport at all without inherent teleportation abilities as shown in Green Lantern Corps #3).
Did Ganthet create the ring in Sinestro Corps War (some argue he returned it) that was offered to Kyle again? Yes, and that may well be what they're speaking of when referring to Ganthet creating it.
Should "Id" stop necrobumping threads? Yes.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Does it retain any of its amps that made it special, i.e., can never be fully drained? No.Was there just another DC-wide retcon that may or may not have changed history? Yes, Flashpoint.
Did that DC-wide retcon have an effect on Kyle's history? Yes, it did. Despite what others may say, Ganthet originally disappeared mysteriously right after bestowing it to Kyle before Kyle even donned the ring. In the New 52, Ganthet seems to have stuck around to watch Kyle cut his teeth on the ring.
Is the New 52 reliable in figuring out whether Kyle still retains his original ring's amps before the New 52 or after the New 52 (or anything else for that matter)? No (and no for other things like GLs not being able to teleport at all without inherent teleportation abilities as shown in Green Lantern Corps #3).
Did Ganthet create the ring in Sinestro Corps War (some argue he returned it) that was offered to Kyle again? Yes, and that may well be what they're speaking of when referring to Ganthet creating it.
Should "Id" stop necrobumping threads? Yes.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Does it retain any of its amps that made it special, i.e., can never be fully drained? No.Was there just another DC-wide retcon that may or may not have changed history? Yes, Flashpoint.
Did that DC-wide retcon have an effect on Kyle's history? Yes, it did. Despite what others may say, Ganthet originally disappeared mysteriously right after bestowing it to Kyle before Kyle even donned the ring. In the New 52, Ganthet seems to have stuck around to watch Kyle cut his teeth on the ring.
Is the New 52 reliable in figuring out whether Kyle still retains his original ring's amps before the New 52 or after the New 52 (or anything else for that matter)? No (and no for other things like GLs not being able to teleport at all without inherent teleportation abilities as shown in Green Lantern Corps #3).
Did Ganthet create the ring in Sinestro Corps War (some argue he returned it) that was offered to Kyle again? Yes, and that may well be what they're speaking of when referring to Ganthet creating it.
Should "Id" stop necrobumping threads? Yes.
Should you stop being an ass? Yes. 😬
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I agree, Kyle is much better than Guy.
Does it retain any of its amps that made it special, i.e., can never be fully drained? No.Was there just another DC-wide retcon that may or may not have changed history? Yes, Flashpoint.
Did that DC-wide retcon have an effect on Kyle's history? Yes, it did. Despite what others may say, Ganthet originally disappeared mysteriously right after bestowing it to Kyle before Kyle even donned the ring. In the New 52, Ganthet seems to have stuck around to watch Kyle cut his teeth on the ring.
Is the New 52 reliable in figuring out whether Kyle still retains his original ring's amps before the New 52 or after the New 52 (or anything else for that matter)? No (and no for other things like GLs not being able to teleport at all without inherent teleportation abilities as shown in Green Lantern Corps #3).
Did Ganthet create the ring in Sinestro Corps War (some argue he returned it) that was offered to Kyle again? Yes, and that may well be what they're speaking of when referring to Ganthet creating it.
Should "Id" stop necrobumping threads? Yes.
