STAR WARS vs. ANYTHING - Please Read! Participate!

Started by Letum Lettow16 pages

Originally posted by Gideon
Since the Force Unleashed portrays Palpatine Force-gripping the Rogue Shadow (which tries to escape), I submit to you that he can immobilize Superman. Not only does the ship outweigh Superman by several orders of magnitude (I assume), but it's capable of faster than light travel.

Q.E.D., Palpatine holds Superman in place until he decides what to do with him.

FTL?

So is Superman.

Eminence
Since you cannot prove the Rogue Shadow had engaged its hyperdrive before Palpatine grabbed it
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which it didn't, because when he did it was landing to pick up Starkiller [3:10] (note the goddamn landing gear)
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WTF. When Palpatine grabbed it, the Rogue Shadow clearly moves to break his hold and escape. It fails to do so.
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[b]that it engaged them while Palpatine spun it like a toy,

What's your point? I didn't say Palpatine could immobilize Superman when Superman is moving faster than the speed of light; but it's clear that once Palpatine has him in a Force grip, Superman won't be able to do shit.

Yeah, I went there!

Eminence
that this ending is canon
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because it's not
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It's non-canon because it didn't happen in the official continuity; that doesn't mean the display of power itself is out of the realm of Palpatine's abilities. Especially when one considers the fact that the dark side ending is contingent solely on a different personal choice made by Starkiller, we have no choice but to accept the power itself as canon.
Eminence
that even if Palpatine could grab him before being slapped into
atomic dust
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he can't

This is more or less like suggesting that Yoda will break Asajj Ventress's neck if they fought. He could, but he won't. Superman will try conventional means to subdue his enemy; Palpatine will simply use the Force to immobilize him.

Eminence
he could withstand Superman's incalculably powerful heat vision while attempting to keep him from accelerating to superluminal speeds, or that Palpatine isn't gay, I submit to you that you must STFU.

I didn't say Palpatine would win; I said he could hold Superman.

Originally posted by Letum Lettow
Spite.

Replicators win. Period.

We can toss SW a bone and give then O'neal.

i don't think he could hold superman.

truejedi
i don't think he could hold superman.

WELL WHO ASKED YOU SIR?!

i interjected.

tj
i interjected.

😖hifty:

So did I.

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All over your mom's face.

Get it?

😐

i don't understand.

Originally posted by Lucius
We can toss SW a bone and give then O'neal.
Without the specific way they died, its mostly irrelevant.

See, the main difference between SG1 and ST is that SG1 didn't forget 99% of its asspulls and its asspulls were far grander.

The Replicators were defeated because of Deus Ex Machina. A level 3-4 on the Kardashev scale civilization's Legacy defeated them.

Thing is, the ancients were even more incompetent than anybody could claim the Forerunners ever were. But they also left more disastrous messes.

Gideon
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WTF. When Palpatine grabbed it, the Rogue Shadow [b]clearly
moves to break his hold and escape. It fails to do so.
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The ship attempting to escape does not equate to it activating its hyperdrive, which is not an instantaneous process and likely requires that the pilots have their faces free of unwanted circuitry, metal, and brains immediately after being jerked around while very clearly not attempting to accelerate to lightspeed.

Gideon
What's your point? I didn't say Palpatine could immobilize Superman when Superman is moving faster than the speed of light; but it's clear that once Palpatine has him in a Force grip, Superman won't be able to do shit.

You're saying that either Palpatine will be able to actively prevent Superman from accelerating to superluminal speeds via brute force or that his hold (on the ship as well, of course) is not based on application of pressure at all, enabling the Emperor to circumvent Superman's tremendous strength, ability to rapidly accelerate his mass to superluminal speeds - which you don't seem to understand requires absurdimpossible amounts of energy - and turn-head-and-look-at-shit powers.

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Those are both retarded.

This is despite the fact that Superman can move at the speed of fvcking light, and therefore is unlikely to allow Palpatine the time to register his presence in the first place.

Gideon
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It's non-canon because it didn't happen in the official continuity; that doesn't mean the display of power itself is out of the realm of Palpatine's abilities. Especially when one considers the fact that the dark side ending is contingent solely on a different personal choice made by Starkiller, we have no choice but to accept the power itself as canon.

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If you need your smallest of penisesvictories, I will allow you to continue believing this. My lack of shit giving will not interfere.

Gideon
This is more or less like suggesting that Yoda will break Asajj Ventress's neck if they fought. He could, but he won't.

If this were the case, and you accepted the idea that Yoda was so far beyond her there was nothing she could do about it, you would accept that it is perfectly within Yoda's abilities to incapacitate her by means that don't violate his moral code.

And he has.

Yoda cannot travel multiple orders of magnitude faster than Ventress can, exert multiple orders of magnitude more pressure than Ventress can, emit incalculable levels of heat energy from his eyes, or freeze things with his breath.

Gideon
It's clear that once Palpatine has him in a Force grip, Superman won't be able to do shit

It's clear that you need to go to sleep.

Gideon
Superman will try conventional means to subdue his enemy; Palpatine will simply use the Force to immobilize him.

And then Superman will try to move, and Palpatine will cry because he can't do jack shit about it.

Gideon
I didn't say Palpatine would win;

I didn't say you did.

Gideon
I said he could hold Superman.

You said, in no remotely uncertain terms, that he could do so against Superman's will. This is not the case.

You will cease, or I will have you raped. I have blacks on my payroll.

^ Ill see your monologue and raise you one force storm.......

what could Supes do about that I wonder.......... 🤨

Didnt a storm like that teleport Luke to Byss?

Couldn't he just fly around it?

Superman can take solar-system and sometimes even galaxy destroying blasts - A force storm won't do shit to him. 😬
And just to clarify - Supes can travel not only at the speed of light, but several times the speed of light. He can move from the earth to the sun in seconds, whereas light takes eight minutes.

yep. The only chance star wars has against him is with the omnipotent beings, or maybe Abeloth can get all in his head.

Pwned
^ Ill see your monologue and raise you one force storm.......

Me
Superman can move [faster than] the speed of fvcking light, and therefore is unlikely to allow Palpatine the time to register his presence in the first place.

If you bother me again, you will be shanked. We have a certain shankhappy individual here at the VF and he will shank you.

Is it me?

I thought it was me........

Originally posted by Lucius
We can toss SW a bone and give then O'neal.

Jack O'Niell, Teal'c, Han Solo, and Chewbacca working together....the mind boggles.

Seriously though I was thinking about the Replicators vs the Yuuzhan Vong.

Originally posted by Pwned
I thought it was me........

It's a he.

So, we're five pages in, it's been almost week, and we've yet to be able to agree on a single thread. Can we focus? 😐

Considering Superman vs. ______ seems to be popular, can we halt the Superman debate in here, have the thread made, and continue it in there proper like?

Or... with other people. mmm