Originally posted by Robtard
It's your own fault, you should have known better as a baby or child. Better get a sharp knife now and butcher your penis. Go.Wait, isn't purposely modifying the body (tattoos, piercings, scarring etc) against God's will?
Why did Go put the foreskin there if he wanted us to chop it off. How rude of him. Creation of the body was his job...
Originally posted by King Castle
so you are saying if i am not circumcized i cant be saved?or that Gawd will be angry with me?
* nope, sorry i got the question wrong, i should've said "nope"... but see first the verse i gave:
"For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation."
Galatians 6:15
"For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God."
I Corinthians 7:19
"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love."
Galatians 5:6
"Here there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scyth'ian, slave, free man, but Christ is all, and in all."
Colossians 3:11
* if i am arguing that homosexual persons can be saved because God shows no partiality and He desires all people to be saved, how could the uncircumcised men be of any difference? they are still people, and they are included in those "all people" whom God desires to be saved...
* i know you guys are very skeptical about the Christian doctrine and the so-called Bible contradictions, so i am proving to all of you that if we make the Bible our basis of faith, there is nothing wrong... those myths about homosexuals and uncircumcised will go to hell are only stupid interpretations of many religious organizations who twist the real meaning of the Scriptures... 😉
Originally posted by King Castle
can i be saved if i am marked by my ancestors and my cultural God?i have tattoos that mark me as a child of my Sky God.red_indian
* if you don't have any tattoos yet, then don't have one:
"You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh on account of the dead or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."
Leviticus 19:28
* but if already have one, it's done, you are not liable because you don't know the law yet... just don't add another... saves you from the pain, too! 🙂
Originally posted by peejaydYou are absolutely not correct and exhibiting a low knowledge of Theology.* if you don't have any tattoos yet, then don't have one:
"You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh on account of the dead or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."
Leviticus 19:28* but if already have one, it's done, you are not liable because you don't know the law yet... just don't add another... saves you from the pain, too! 🙂 [/B]
Originally posted by TRH
However, there is no prohibition in the New Testament against Tattoos at all.
Originally posted by TRH
You are absolutely not correct and exhibiting a low knowledge of Theology.
* don't get too personal... 🙄
Originally posted by TRH
Anything of Value in the Law of Moses is repeated in The New Testament.
You absolutely can not pick and choose through Leviticus like that. Either you take all of Leviticus or None of it. Those with a knowledge of The Bible know Jesus Christ fulfilled The Law Of Moses.
* to be specific:
"Then he said to them, These are my words which I spoke to you, while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled."
Luke 24:44
Originally posted by TRH
And as you rightly stated, Circumcision is no longer necessary. However, there is no prohibition in the New Testament against Tattoos at all.
* Christ left an example:
"For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps."
I Peter 2:21
* did Christ acquired a tattoo? nope... so if you're a follower of Christ, He left you an example... no tattoos... 😉
* now, if you're still not down with that, there are other verses in the New Testament implying we should not have tattoos:
"And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
Matthew 22:39
* you will surely don't want to hurt yourself on tattoos if you love yourself...
"For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church,"
Ephesians 5:29
* 'nuff said... therefore, Leviticus 19:28 still applies, agreed? 🙂
* and these: works of the flesh:
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
Galatians 5:19-21
* uncleanness or impurity of flesh... hope you get my point... 🙂
Originally posted by LLLLLinkDo you decide what is worldly and what isn't? Is Music Worldly? Is Singing Worldly? Is Music that praises God worldly? Is a Tattoo that praises God worldly?
I'm not sure if you are defending tattoos or not, so respond with that in mind.
If your body is the temple of God where the Holy Spirit resides, wouldn't tattooing your body be similar to putting graffiti on God's temple?
Also, aren't Christians to abstain from all appearance of evil? Aren't Christians supposed to be separated from the world?
I wouldn't say that I know anywhere in the NT that says it's wrong to have a tat, but I would consider that riding the fence, and that certainly isn't holy.
Originally posted by peejaydDid Christ have a wife? No, he did not. Is Marriage therefore sin? Did Christ eat Pork? No. Is eating Pork therefore sin? No. Your logic is flawed and your interpretation skewed. Just as eating with unwashed hands cannot defile, so can a Tattoo not defile you, is in the content of that Tattoo.
* don't get too personal... 🙄* to be specific:
"Then he said to them, These are my words which I spoke to you, while I was still with you, that [b]everything written about me
in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled."
Luke 24:44* Christ left an example:
"For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps."
I Peter 2:21* did Christ acquired a tattoo? nope... so if you're a follower of Christ, He left you an example... no tattoos... 😉
* now, if you're still not down with that, there are other verses in the New Testament implying we should not have tattoos:
"And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
Matthew 22:39* you will surely don't want to hurt yourself on tattoos if you love yourself...
"For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church,"
Ephesians 5:29* 'nuff said... therefore, Leviticus 19:28 still applies, agreed? 🙂
* and these: works of the flesh:
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
Galatians 5:19-21* uncleanness or impurity of flesh... hope you get my point... 🙂 [/B]
I don't even know how to respond to the second part of that post. No, The Law Of Moses does not apply today.
I don't have time for Christian ametuear hour.