Originally posted by Galan007
Juggy was winning.... Until Hulk got angry.
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What Ptr said. And Hulk was angry/agitated even before that.
Still don't know how you could have read that fight and come to the conclusion Hulk made Juggernaut look weak. If spinning some around means their somehow superior, then Thor grabbing Hercules by the ankles and twirling him around with one arm is a hell of a feat.
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinHulk got pissed, grabbed Juggy by the helmet, spun him around like a walking stick, threw him into a mountain, then left.
So, you think Hulk throwing a 900lb man is some kind of dynamic/overpowering strength feat? Cause I'm pretty sure Cain was unharmed and still able to fight.
Imo, it was made clear in that issue that Juggy had the slight edge until Hulk got angry. Then Hulk had the edge.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI love how you always manage to bring in some thor wankage...even when he has absolutely no relation to a thread. truly an amazing gift. 🙄
😬What Ptr said. And Hulk was angry/agitated even before that.
Still don't know how you could have read that fight and come to the conclusion Hulk made Juggernaut look like weak. If spinning some around means their superior in strength, then Thor grabbing Hercules by the ankles and twirling him around with one arm is a hell of a feat.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus-Hulk-
😬Hulk was angry and agitated even before that.
Still don't know how you could have read that fight and come to the conclusion Hulk made Juggernaut look like weak. If spinning some around means their superior in strength, then Thor grabbing Hercules by the ankles and twirling him around with one arm is a hell of a feat.
...And I didn't mean weak in the literal sense, I meant in comparison he looked pathetic.
Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk got pissed, grabbed Juggy by the helmet, spun him around like a walking stick, threw him into a mountain, then left.Imo, it was made clear in that issue that Juggy had the slight edge until Hulk got angry. Then Hulk had the edge.
Spider-Man could "surprise-web" Hulk, twirl him around and throw him some distance. Does that mean Spider-Man make Hulk look weak?
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinHulk "surprised" Juggy with that attack? You can't be serious.
Spider-Man could "surprise-web" Hulk, twirl him around and throw him some distance. Does that mean Spider-Man make Hulk look weak?
Hulk was on the ground face down, with Juggy literally sitting on him in the dominate position. Hell, just to overcome the position Hulk was in (let alone treat Juggy as casually as he did) would require an overpowering, of sorts.
Like I said, Juggy seemed to have the edge before Hulk got mad. But when Hulk got mad, he had the edge.
Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk "surprised" Juggy with that attack? You can't be serious.Hulk was on the ground face down, with Juggy literally sitting on him in the dominate position. Hell, just to overcome the position Hulk was in (let alone treat Juggy as casually as he did) would require an overpowering, of sorts.
Like I said, Juggy seemed to have the edge before Hulk got mad. But when Hulk got mad, he had the edge.
Juggs certainly wasn't expecting it. So what else could it be?
That doesn't mean he had an edge. For one, Juggs has a force-field he could have activated to prevent Hulk from grabbing his helmet. Two, Juggs literally was completely unharmed. Bruce Lee could overthrow someone twice his size and weight.
Originally posted by Starscream M
spiderman cannot twirl hulk around him
Spidey is a class 20 isn't he? Hulk's weight shouldn't be too much for him to twirl around.
Hulk's not that heavy. Spidey could do it.
Originally posted by Galan007
-Hulk-
"Hulk is really tired of you now, Juggernaut" - said as he was spinning Juggy....And I didn't mean weak in the literal sense, I meant in comparison he looked pathetic.
And that proves what exactly? Hulk claiming his pissed off while his twirling the Juggernaut doesn't magically mean the Hulk was outperforming Juggernaut in any actual physical category. He doesn't even have to be as strong as Juggernaut to accomplish what he did.
In what way exactly as that's how I took it.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I love how you always manage to bring in some thor wankage...even when he has absolutely no relation to a thread. truly an amazing gift. 🙄
I was using Thor as an example. Do you know why I usually use Thor examples? Because I'm familiar with Thor more than most other characters.
You need to stop replying to my posts. I'm tired of your idiocy. Don't address me unless I gave you permission or address you first.
Originally posted by Starscream M
its not about hulk's weight...hulk is simply too strong for spiderman to budge...hulk would hold his ground no matter what parker did
Spider-Man has knocked Hulk off his feet before. It isn't impossible for Spidey to jerk Hulk off his feet if he is not braced. Notice I said, "surprise-web".
Besides, did you know Spider-Man has actually KO'd Savage Hulk? And this was in this decade.
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinOkay, so let me get this straight... Even though Hulk was face down on the ground with Juggy sitting on top of him, Hulk was only able to overwhelm Juggy with a "surprise" helmet grab? From that position? Wow, he must be faster than I thought.
Juggs certainly wasn't expecting it. So what else could it be?That doesn't mean he had an edge. For one, Juggs has a force-field he could have activated to prevent Hulk from grabbing his helmet.
Juggs literally was completely unharmed.
I understand Juggy has a force-field, but he obviously wasn't using it in that particular battle. For my opinion on the outcome of Juggy /w/ FF up vs. Hulk battle, see my first post on the previous page.
Hulk was completely unharmed as well. What's your point?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt proves that when Hulk got angry he was able to break the position of dominance Juggy was in, and treat him in a casual manner.
And that proves what exactly?
Haha when? Are you talking about the Captain America scene Ptr?
Yea, it's not beyond Spider-Man to twirl Hulk. At least if his not expecting it. If the Hulk braces for it, I don't see him doing it, but lesser force has knocked the Hulk back.
Originally posted by Starscream M
😂yeah ok. Im really gonna honor that request....no, how bout I address your idiocy whenever I damn well feel like it! 😎
Request? That was an order fool.
Keep this up and I'll ban you.
And lulz at "my idiocy".
Originally posted by Galan007
It proves that when Hulk got angry he was able to break the position of dominance Juggy was in, and treat him in a casual manner.
He grabbed him by his helmet. Cain weights a few tons tops. Lifting that with his finger tips is easily within the Hulk's capabilities. He didn't actually do anything anyone with sufficient will power and strength -even below that of Cain's- isn't capable off.
Again. Spinning someone doesn't actually prove or mean anything.
I don't understand why your trying to pass that scene off as Hulk proving his superior to Cain.
Originally posted by Galan007
Okay, so let me get this straight... Even though Hulk was face down on the ground with Juggy sitting on top of him, Hulk was only able to overwhelm Juggy with a "surprise" helmet grab? From that position? Wow, he must be faster than I thought.Hulk was completely unharmed as well. What's your point?
Hulk didn't overwhelm him. And Hulk is known to be fast, so he could easily grab Juggs when Cain thought he was down, and throw him.
Hulk was hurt, maybe his healing factor kicked in, but Juggs was definitely beating the crap out of him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha when? Are you talking about the Captain America scene Ptr?
Cement Truck FTW!!!
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIf Juggy would have still been stronger than Hulk in that scene, then Hulk would have never been able to break the position of dominance Juggy was in (again, Hulk was face down on the ground with Juggy sitting on top of him clutching his neck.) And he certainly wouldn't have been able to go on to twirl Juggy around in a casual manner, without Juggy preventing it.
I don't understand why your trying to pass that scene off as Hulk proving his superior to Cain.
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinBefore Hulk got angry. Yes, I already agreed with that.
Hulk was hurt, maybe his healing factor kicked in, but Juggs was definitely beating the crap out of him.
Originally posted by Galan007
Don't know why you are. If Juggy would have still been stronger than Hulk in that scene, then Hulk would have never been able to break the position of dominance Juggy was in (again, Hulk was face down on the ground with Juggy sitting on top of him.) And he certainly wouldn't have been able to go on to twirl Juggy around in a casual manner, without Juggy preventing it.
As far as leverage goes, Hulk had more of it. He had his legs and one arm planted on the ground. Juggernaut had 1 foot on the ground. All Hulk had to do was fight against the pain, and lift a 900lb man off the ground.