World Breaker Hulk vs Classic Juggernaut

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus12 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
If Juggy would have still been stronger than Hulk in that scene, then Hulk would have never been able to break the position of dominance Juggy was in (again, Hulk was face down on the ground with Juggy sitting on top of him clutching his neck.) And he certainly wouldn't have been able to go on to twirl Juggy around in a casual manner, without Juggy preventing it.

What Ptr said.

Juggernaut seemed to have a knee on Hulk's back and was grabbing his head from behind. Hulk was not face down and had one arm planted on the ground from what I recall.

He withstood the pain -Hulk was incredibly durable back then as well- and reached back over his head to grab Juggernaut.

Try picturing being in that position. Now imagine if you had the strength to lift your attacker with your finger tips. Breaking out of that position if you were durable enough wouldn't be that difficult.

Once again with the twirling. Once Hulk had Cain in the air, it was done. He didn't overpower Cain in anyway in that moment.

And as I recall, Cain didn't resist the Hulk's actions at all. Or at least didn't look it. Probably surprised or something.

Originally posted by Galan007
If Juggy would have still been stronger than Hulk in that scene, then Hulk would have never been able to break the position of dominance Juggy was in (again, Hulk was face down on the ground with Juggy sitting on top of him clutching his neck.) And he certainly wouldn't have been able to go on to twirl Juggy around in a casual manner, without Juggy preventing it.

Before Hulk got angry. Yes, I already agreed with that.

100% correct.
Moreover u guys are pretending that juggernaut is dead weight and wasnt exerting force on hulk already in addition to the resistance he would put up when hulk tried (and succcedded) to lift him. And to even describe this whole; he surprised him argument as farfetched would be a grave understatement.

The best course of action in that situation would be to try and throw your opponent over your shoulder. This would be no problem for Hulk, or Juggernaut if their situations were reversed. Juggernaut is not the Blob. So lifting him off the ground while stationary with very little leverage is not a huge feat as far as comics go.

We saw Cain on top of the Hulk. In the next immediate panel, we see Hulk lifting Cain as if he is dead weight. His arms weren't even flailing as I recall. He was rigid like a statue stuck in a pose. And yes, I know comics aren't moving picture books.

Originally posted by Naija boy
100% correct.
Moreover u guys are pretending that juggernaut is dead weight and wasnt exerting force on hulk already in addition to the resistance he would put up when hulk tried (and succcedded) to lift him. And to even describe this whole; he surprised him argument as farfetched would be a grave understatement.
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yeah after reading the issue for myself i gotta say that i agree with naija and galan. juggernaut def. had the upper hand when the fight first started but when hulk got angry HE def. had the upper hand. i thought it was pretty clear tbh.

Originally posted by john allerdyce
i gotta say that i agree with naija and galan and Starscream M

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as long as you agree with us then i agree with you 😛

How the hell could Hulk have had the 'upper hand' if all he did was harmlessly throw a guy who weighs a mere 900 lbs, do no damage, and then walk off confused and still worn out while Juggernaut was up and about to blindside him?

Was Juggernaut the least bit impressed or surprised by Hulk throwing him? No. Shouldn't he have been surprised/embarrassed/shocked etc if it was such an amazing strength feat, after declaring himself stronger than hulk throughout that fight?

That was nothing. Juggernaut still had the advantage, and always will outside of enhancements.

Originally posted by john allerdyce
yeah after reading the issue for myself i gotta say that i agree with naija and galan. juggernaut def. had the upper hand when the fight first started but when hulk got angry HE def. had the upper hand. i thought it was pretty clear tbh.

I simply don't view spinning someone as a sign of superiority. Guess I'll admit to being wrong. At least until someone gives a different opinion.

srug

Well, at least I can brag about Thor spinning Hercules now.

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Edit: Aaaand I take it back.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
How the hell could Hulk have had the 'upper hand' if all he did was harmlessly throw a guy who weighs a mere 900 lbs, do no damage, and then walk off confused and still worn out while Juggernaut was up and about to blindside him?
Hulk didn't have the advantage because he dealt out some extreme degree of damage. He had the advantage for other reasons that I've mentioned a few times now, and don't care to again.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I simply don't view spinning someone as a sign of superiority.
spinning someone with super strength is pretty impress

its not as easy as you think

go to any of your friend who is strong and try spinning and throwing him...you'll realize its not easy

Originally posted by Starscream M
spinning someone with super strength is pretty impress

its not as easy as you think

go to any of your friend who is strong and try spinning and throwing him...you'll realize its not easy

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
Hulk is the strongest one there is

Glad we agree.

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No.

Originally posted by Starscream M
spinning someone with super strength is pretty impress

its not as easy as you think

go to any of your friend who is strong and try spinning and throwing him...you'll realize its not easy

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You can't really be this stupid can you?

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's trolling us.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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You can't really be this stupid can you?

wai...WHAT?! 😱 why am I stupid now?

Originally posted by Starscream M
wai...WHAT?! 😱 why am I stupid now?

Read your post. Read what you just asked me to do. Read the analogy you just tried to make.