His purpose was to point out the poor grammatics and lack of punctuation, I believe. I could be wrong, but that's how I understood it. Also, his "sUse" ain't the absence of English capability; It's merely the absence of focus on writing it, sloppy, stressed or whatever. It's abundantly clear as he capitalized 'U' and not 'S', but all things put aside, I don't know why you care so much about him making a mistake.
So he's a little mouthy. Leave it at that. Just because there is a fault, doesn't mean it's a good idea to point it out.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaExcuses wouldn't mean much when it comes to assignments for a job or a class.
It's merely the absence of focus on writing it, sloppy, stressed or whatever.
A good example of the way one types while pointing out someone's bad grammar and punctuation use would go over much better.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaIrony -
Actually, it's not. That's not a grammar error, which means it's not ironic 😛
Spelling is an integral part of grammar, which defines proper word usage. Some rules of grammar pertain specifically to spelling, such as plurals and possessives.
Integral -
of, pertaining to, or belonging as a part of the whole
😬
Spelling is an integral part of the English language, but not of grammatics. Grammatics and spelling are two seperate aspects of the English language, and one can't fell the other.
One can spell bad and still master the grammatics of the language, and vice versa. One can spell well but fail at the grammatics.
I know full well what irony means, which is why I'm informing you that your use of it doesn't work.
Well the last 3 sentences you typed restated the other, so you proved to me no point there. Spelling is a part of grammar. Lets take some examples to prove my points:
1.Your vs You're
2.It's vs Its
3.There vs Their
4.Affect vs. Effect
It is very easy to get all these words mixed up with each other with a simple spelling error, but at the end of the day this indeed, it would be considered as a grammatical error more than a spelling mistake. Chances are you will still understand what the writer is trying to say, but they may still have it spelled incorrectly.
Originally posted by moderator23
Well the last 3 sentences you typed restated the other, so you proved to me no point there. Spelling is a part of grammar. Lets take some examples to prove my points:[b]
1.Your vs You're
2.It's vs Its
3.There vs Their
4.Affect vs. EffectIt is very easy to get all these words mixed up with each other with a simple spelling error, but at the end of the day this indeed, it would be considered as a grammatical error more than a spelling mistake. Chances are you will still understand what the writer is trying to say, but they may still have it spelled incorrectly. [/B]
That's not spelling, though. That's different words, that serve different purposes. Two of those words are actually two in one even, so it's not at all faulty spelling, but instead incorrect usage of words. Using the wrong word ain't faulty spelling (They are all, needless to say, spelled correctly), which is what your examples are based on.
"Your" in place of "You're" ain't faulty spelling, because they are different words. Serve different purposes. Because what you're pointing at is grammar gone wrong, or even simply incomplete understanding of which word should go where. Not spelling errors. Want to see spelling gone wrong?
1. Bleu vs Blue.
2. Cirkle vs Circle.
3. Knigt vs Knight.
4. Efect vs. Effect.
See, if your trying to use the word their and you spell it there, it is ultimately spelled wrong since the word your trying to use is a whole different meaning from "there." I admit that it's incorrect usage of words, but the fact is it is still spelled wrong. Take the words colour, coulor, and color. They all mean the same thing, but are all spelled differently. Also, it can be the same with favorite or favourite.
This is where we end up discussing homophonic words, and vocal versus written language. Although "Coulor" is not a synonym of "Color" and "Colour". It's actually a town in South America, but that's beside the point.
It's not spelled wrong, though. It's spelled right, but it's the wrong word. Which is an absence of understanding grammar and not the ability to spell. You still spelled right, even if you used the wrong word.
I know it's frustrating, but that's how it is. We want to take the easy path and call it error of spelling, but it really ain't. It's just the inability to understand which word goes where.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaI understand what you're trying to say but this is only for certain people. Others, when misusing those words, believe that also. What I'm trying to say is that if I'm taking a vocabulary test and number 1 says to spell the word "bear" and I put "bare" that's a spelling error, isn't it?
It's just the inability to understand which word goes where.
Originally posted by moderator23
I understand what you're trying to say but this is only for certain people. Others, when misusing those words, believe that also. What I'm trying to say is that if I'm taking a vocabulary test and number 1 says to spell the word "bear" and I put "bare" that's a spelling error, isn't it?
What kind of vocabulary test are you taking?
Originally posted by moderator23
I understand what you're trying to say but this is only for certain people. Others, when misusing those words, believe that also. What I'm trying to say is that if I'm taking a vocabulary test and number 1 says to spell the word "bear" and I put "bare" that's a spelling error, isn't it?
That's still the wrong word. You have the right intentions with the word, but that doesn't make it the right word spelled wrong. Vocal versus written once more; Just because you understand a word being said, doesn't make it any more the same if written as something else. Understanding does not equal actuality.
The concept is simple. It's basic English: Grammar is the study of how words and their component parts combine to form sentences. Spelling is an entirely different department.
The reason you might be failing to understand this, is that you view English as English. This isn't a true perspective as English, like with any language, is a linguistic symmetry of various components.
Grammar, spelling, vocabulary. While they all belong to the English language, they are different things and shouldn't be confused with one another. The sooner you start viewing them as different components of the same world, the sooner you'll see the difference between grammar and spelling.
Allow me to clarify, as I just realized I wrote all of that a little strange:
When talking about grammar, "bare" is not "bear" incorrectly spelled. "Bare" is a wrongly placed word that actually should've been "bear"
In the spelling department, "bare" could indeed be "bear" spelled wrong, but grammar was the topic of discussion. In the world of grammatics, it's the wrong word all-together.
Originally posted by starryknight
my brain is going to blow up!!!!!
You know there's not fighting on Fringe! Astal has a special place for Luna in the near future...I'll give you a hint