Cross Genre Match #11: Dante vs Etrigan

Originally posted by Creshosk
This isn't about any specific character carver. this is about your hypocritical arguments.

In fact you used nearly the same exact wording when you did an about face because someone else made a type of argument, you're so found of making, against you.

I don't know how much simpler I can make it for you.

"It'd be like me saying..."

And then you say something that you DID say. Or something very close to it.

So again, do you think Hulk reflexes is 100 times the speed of light since he fought someone that has on panel showings of going that fast? That is the ONLY way you can dispute my argument.

Endless Mike stated that Etrigan kept up with Superman, someone who has on panel showings of running 2000 mps so do you think Etrigan reflexes is = to that or > that since Mike is using fighting Superman as a speed feat?

Hyperion has a showing of flying a being from a planet into a sun before he actually had the time to react and he also have nanoseconds combat on panel and Hulk has DESTROYED Hyperion on panel so with that said, the only way you can say I am wrong is by agreeing that Hulk has light speed reaction. Do you agree with this?

Originally posted by carver9
So again, do you think Hulk reflexes is 100 times the speed of light since he fought someone that has on panel showings of going that fast? That is the ONLY way you can dispute my argument.

Thanks for proving that you're incapable of understanding what other people say.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Strawman. False Dichotomy.

Thanks for proving that you're incapable of understanding what other people say.

Its not a straw man. False Dichotomy.

You pointed my post out so you must be against what I said so if you are against what I said, prove me wrong.

I understand exactly what you said but you are misinterpreting my post and you are not showing me what I asked for. You said that I said Superman was slow... I would love to see this post.

Originally posted by carver9
Its not a straw man. False Dichotomy.

Originally posted by carver9
You pointed my post out so you must be against what I said so if you are against what I said, prove me wrong.

It has NOTHING to do with what I'm saying.

Originally posted by carver9
I understand exactly what you said[]/b]

Originally posted by carver9
[B] but you are misinterpreting my post and you are not showing me what I asked for

Originally posted by carver9
. You said that I said Superman was slow...

Originally posted by carver9
I would love to see this post.

Again, my point is simple: You're a hypocrite and lack the ability to understand what people say.

Originally posted by Creshosk
There are times I strongly suspect Carver doesn't understand his let alone other's arguments.

"Superman isn't that fast! Slower people have tagged him!" ~Carver9

"You can't use slower people tagging someone to prove that the faster person is slow! Colossus and the hulk have tagged gladiator!" ~Carver9

Here ya go... Superman isnt that fast? When did I ever say this? Then you put slower people have tagged him... Is this false? Do you disagree?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Its a strawman because saying "So you think that hulk is >C" Has ****all to do with my post. ITs a false dichotomy because I don't have to attack the strawman argument you set up to prove my point.

Where did I make the argument? Why should I prove something I don't care about?

It has NOTHING to do with what I'm saying.

Then how come you're arguing a point I never made? Why is it that you still haven't addressed my actual point?

This is projecting at its finest. Why should I prove a point I never made? Why are you dodging the point I AM making?

Prove it.

And I would love to see the post where you think I made foundation for you to demand proof of something I never said.

Again, my point is simple: You're a hypocrite and lack the ability to understand what people say.

With this said, our debate is pointless and there is nothing for me to talk about. If you dont disagree with what I said then I dont care about anything else, its wasting space and it is also spamming the thread.

Originally posted by carver9
Here ya go... Superman isnt that fast? When did I ever say this? Then you put slower people have tagged him... Is this false? Do you disagree?

Originally posted by carver9
this isnt Superman that we are talking about, this is someone who is MUCH faster than Superman combat wise. This is someone that has never been tagged by someone that doesnt have super speed.

Superman is fast but he isnt DBZ fast. 90% of the things that has happened to Supes in a comic would NEVER happen to someone with DBZ level of speed.

dumbass.

Hmm...

Nah, I'm staying out of this one.

Originally posted by Creshosk
dumbass.

😕 Where did I say that Superman wasnt fast... I said that Superman is fast but he isnt DBZ fast. I can also say this, Superman is fast but he isnt Flash fast... or this, Superman is fast but isnt Northstar fast...

Again, I never said Superman WAS NOT fast... I said that he isnt DBZ fast and he isnt. If anyone else is reading this, please do not respond to my thoughts of DBZ vs Superman speed, we can discuss this through PM or in 2 weeks... Thanks.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...

Nah, I'm staying out of this one.

You can get into it Illa...

Originally posted by carver9
😕 Where did I say that Superman wasnt fast... I said that Superman is fast but he isnt DBZ fast. I can also say this, Superman is fast but he isnt Flash fast... or this, Superman is fast but isnt Northstar fast...

Again, I never said Superman WAS NOT fast... I said that he isnt DBZ fast and he isnt. If anyone else is reading this, please do not respond to my thoughts of DBZ vs Superman speed, we can discuss this through PM or in 2 weeks... Thanks.

"Superman is fast but he isnt DBZ fast." "This{not superman} is someone that has never been tagged by someone that doesnt have super speed."
Superman isn't that fast! Slower people have tagged him!" ~Carver9

I've color coded the paraphrasing.

But yeah, you basically said what I paraphrased it to.

Wow. It evolved into a superman speed thread.

shut up carver. Seriously, **** DBZ

Originally posted by amnesia
Wow. It evolved into a superman speed thread.

shut up carver. Seriously, **** DBZ

Originally posted by Creshosk
"Superman is fast but he isnt DBZ fast." "This[b]{not superman} is someone that has never been tagged by someone that doesnt have super speed."
Superman isn't that fast! Slower people have tagged him!" ~Carver9

I've color coded the paraphrasing.

But yeah, you basically said what I paraphrased it to. [/B]

LOL... WOW; misinterpretation yet again. The only thing that I am going to say to this is Superman is fast, VERY fast, has proven that he is fast, is one of the fastest Heralds but he isnt DBZ fast.

Now can we get off of this subject please. I told you about Supermans speed... I agree with you and I have always agreed with you, Superman is truly fast, now lets drop it. I never disagreed with you on that part and I never will unless he get a power degraded and I cant see that happening. Wonder Woman is fast also... Martian Manhunter is fast, Hyperion is fast, Surfer is fast, Gladiator is fast, and the list goes on.

Now who do you think will win this fight Creshok?

Originally posted by amnesia
Wow. It evolved into a superman speed thread.

shut up carver. Seriously, **** DBZ

LOL... so you are blaming me for this... read back please and come back and holla at me when you see who brought everything up. I'm tired of you all pointing me out when its not me that is bringing everything up.

You keep talking about dragonball.

I don't care for bad animation. Toriyama is the Loeb of manga.

That's enough guys.

This thread's about Dante Vs. Etrigan. Let's stay on topic.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL... WOW; misinterpretation yet again. The only thing that I am going to say to this is Superman is fast, VERY fast, has proven that he is fast, is one of the fastest Heralds but he isnt DBZ fast.

That is what you're saying. You might not realize it but that is EXACTLY what you're saying. not word for word, but meaning.

"People without superspeed have tagged him, therefore he's slower than X"

People with superspeed have never tagged me, no matter how fast they go. Guess that means that I'm even faster than people who have been tagged by people with superspeed?

Originally posted by amnesia
You keep talking about dragonball.

I don't care for bad animation. Toriyama is the Loeb of manga.

I DID NOT BRING UP DBZ FIRST, I WAS THE ONE THAT ASKED CRESHOSK TO GET "OFF" OF THE SUBJECT. I WAS THE ONE THAT SAID INSTEAD OF SPAMMING THIS THREAD ABOUT DBZ IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS "PM" ME.

READ BACK PLEASE. SH**

Originally posted by Creshosk
"He isn't that fast, slower people have tagged him!"

That is what you're saying. You might not realize it but that is EXACTLY what you're saying. not word for word, but meaning.

"People without superspeed have tagged him, therefore he's slower than X"

People with superspeed have never tagged me, no matter how fast they go. Guess that means that I'm even faster than people who have been tagged by people with superspeed?

I think Dante would win, what about you?