The Top 10 Fighters in the Marvel Universe

Started by Dum Dum Dugan14 pages

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea it is a supernatural power tied from fighting in the general sense.

Say Akuma has great fighting skill and his chi is tied from it because his level of skill allowed him to pull it off. But it is a power as well. That's when I say MA is good against superhumans because it is actual powers. Just powers that came from MA skill.

With no "exotic abilities" I don't really feel the gap between most of these chars is significant enough to make a constant difference. There are just too many variables. And just because one person is 3% better doesn't grant them an auto victory.


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I just cosigning all of this after second read.

only side note I have to add is that you don't nessarily have to be top tier fighter in skill, to be a great chi amper. They can be to seperate learned abilities espcially in comics.

Meh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i was talking skill wise.
i thought MA knowledge was a heavy part of skill.

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look at the respect skill under skill and vs

Originally posted by King Castle
i thought MA knowledge was a heavy part of skill.

I wasn't implying it wasn't.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Lets see some issue numbers or scans of these so called skill feats from Logan. I want to look at them. Is one of them the one where Wolverine puts DD in a full nelson?

yes, which is pretty hard thing to accomplish in h2h fight.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I would think that Wolverine's biggest advantage in a fight against DD would be his strength and claws...

he wasent using his claws, he was fighting h2h

Originally posted by -Pr-
so by that logic logan is so much better than both men, he can beat both of them at the same time?

No, but goes to show you what he capable of in terms of MA skill.

after DD sneaked attacked him while logan was occupied.. logan shrugged it off and put him in place. 😐

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No, but goes to show you what he capable of in terms of MA skill.

his physical stats do play a part, though, don't they?

Originally posted by -Pr-
his physical stats do play a part, though, don't they?

in any fight ones physical stats play a part, but in both encounters I am speaking of he beat them through skill. Espicially considering shang-chi is a match for him physically, and can even enhance his strength to level beyond wolverine.

Yes they do, thats why hes able to take hits from charaters so well. How do you hurt someone who always heals?

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2468/marvelcomicspresents151hm4.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/546/marvelcomicspresents151qe0.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/284/shangchi2af8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2512/shangchi3eu5.jpg

but, that logic is unwarranted. its basically dismissing logan's skills and training and saying its purely by stats and white washing every skill feat he has displayed pre and post mutant power activation and adamantium.
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prior to retcon logan didnt always have a healing factor nor legitimate superhuman attributes in his pre weapon X stories.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Yes they do, thats why hes able to take hits fron charaters. How do you hurt someone who always heals it?

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2468/marvelcomicspresents151hm4.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/546/marvelcomicspresents151qe0.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/284/shangchi2af8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2512/shangchi3eu5.jpg


Thanks both thoses events do nicely.

after the sucker kicks (which is odd both started off with kicks) he completely out fights them and puts them at major disadvantages.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
in any fight ones physical stats play a part, but in both encounters I am speaking of he beat them through skill. Espicially considering shang-chi is a match for him physically, and can even enhance his strength to level beyond wolverine.

i was speaking about daredevil.

daredevil shouldnt be used since he is handicapped if all things are equal.. his radar at the very least should be reduced in effectiveness if not out right removed.

Handicapable my @$$excellent

Originally posted by King Castle
i thought MA knowledge was a heavy part of skill.

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look at the respect skill under skill and vs

MA knowledge is important in MA skill. For instance someone who knew MA doesn't mean they'd know Magneto's powers to the effect he does if he got them, that is a different skill. Just like using webshooters or something.

Nonetheless chi amping for fighting characters stems from fighting skill almost always. Which is why more powerful characters are better at it.

Originally posted by King Castle
daredevil shouldnt be used since he is handicapped if all things are equal.. his radar at the very least should be reduced in effectiveness if not out right removed.

Handicapable my @$$excellent

all things equal his opponent would be blind too. 😛

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Nonetheless chi amping for fighting characters stems from fighting skill almost always. Which is why more powerful characters are better at it.


But that does not make them more skilled. espcially when certain characters simply can't uses it. it sperate learned skill, but it does not define ones level in skill.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
But that does not make them more skilled. espcially when certain characters simply can't uses it. it sperate learned skill, but it does not define ones level in skill.
MA skill you mean?

It depends on the universe. But generally it is. Because some guys can't shoot mega fireballs don't mean that they can't use chi. Actually we all can anyways.

Originally posted by Mshinu
No particular order:

Stick
Ogun
Mantis
Gorgon
Gamora
Elektra
Temugin
Mandarin
Iron Fist
Moondragon

Good list 👆 helluva lot better than the last few pages.