Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
do you see wonder woman going Pure H2H with superman with out no gear and stalemating?
She can beat the **** outta Superman without any weapons if she wanted to. She proved this in Sacrifice. She was seriously holding back while taking blows from a sun amped non holding back Superman.
An advanced combo with pressure point strikes can beat Superman.
Originally posted by Q99
About the only time they matched up toe-to-toe they were even, btw.
Oh, I'm sorry. I must have missed the part in that fight where Billy and Diana locked up in a test of strength and were stalemating...lol.
Also, Cap took on a possessed Diana and J'onn along with a couple of others and did well.
Marvel easy... his magical nature should be enough especially when the likes of dracula and banshee can hurt him and they dont even rack up to his herald lvl strength..
if the vamp teeth logic isnt enough reason... marvel can zues amp and charge his punch
by the way i like the one where marvel is getting head from supes... nice scans
Originally posted by h1a8
The power of Zues is the lightning, nothing more. Prove what you are talking about.Superman holds back both consciously and subconsciously. That is why he seems peers to not only CM but beings who can't lift beyond 10,000 tons.
Superman is more durable. This is a fact.Lastly, CM has the strength of Hercules (by writer's intent).
WW is stated in D.C. comics to be stronger than Hercules. Superman is stronger than her and thus stronger than CM. Superman has greater feats as well.
your superman holding back stories are old, yes superman is stronger more durable and faster by a SMALL margin. this is no cake walk for supes as some people like to portray it.
As far as the captian marvel's potential goes ampping himself with the poweres of the gods. could you imagine if zeus and the rest of the gods decided to share even more of their abilities with cap? As it stands cap has a TINY,TINY,TINY fraction of their abilities. cap has the potential to out power dozens of supermen if the gods deamed it so. Yes even against sun dipped supermen and non holding back supermen.
Originally posted by zeelSundipped Superman is more powerful than any Skyfather. He overpowered the begotten Imperiex force.
your superman holding back stories are old, yes superman is stronger more durable and faster by a SMALL margin. this is no cake walk for supes as some people like to portray it.As far as the captian marvel's potential goes ampping himself with the poweres of the gods. could you imagine if zeus and the rest of the gods decided to share even more of their abilities with cap? As it stands cap has a TINY,TINY,TINY fraction of their abilities. cap has the potential to out power dozens of supermen if the gods deamed it so. Yes even against sun dipped supermen and non holding back supermen.
With that said, u have no proof to what you say. Writers portray CM has having the strength of Hercules, the power of Zues (explained through lightning), Stamina of Atlas (not strength), Wisdom of Solomon, speed of mercury, and invulnerability of Achilles.
No one can overwrite the writers intentions with speculation.
Originally posted by h1a8
Sundipped Superman is more powerful than any Skyfather. He overpowered the begotten Imperiex force.With that said, u have no proof to what you say. Writers portray CM has having the strength of Hercules, the power of Zues (explained through lightning), Stamina of Atlas (not strength), Wisdom of Solomon, speed of mercury, and invulnerability of Achilles.
No one can overwrite the writers intentions with speculation.
What if a Sky Father started casting magic spells on him, and ripped the sun amping right out of him, who would he be more powerful then?
Originally posted by h1a8No he is not. His only 'feat' to support this is the projection of another characters feats and hyperbolic power level description upon SM coupled with the assumption that the entirety of the power making up the imperiex force was actually used up in opposing SM moving the warworld through a boom tube, which is pathetic. SM was nowhere near the power the IF possesed and couldn't possibly overcome it on his own, hence the combined efforts of all the other characters to BFR its energies to the big bang.
[B]Sundipped Superman is more powerful than any Skyfather.
Originally posted by 753
No he is not. His only 'feat' to support this is the projection of another characters feats and hyperbolic power level description upon SM coupled with the assumption that the entirety of the power making up the imperiex force was actually used up in opposing SM moving the warworld through a boom tube, which is pathetic. SM was nowhere near the power the IF possesed and couldn't possibly overcome it on his own, hence the combined efforts of all the other characters to BFR its energies to the big bang.
And really why wouldn't Brainiac push all his available power into resisting Supes' attempts to bfr him? Now I'm not agreeing with H1a8 that sundipped Superman > any Skyfather but in terms of raw strength Sundipped Superman was off the charts. He'd be at least Trans tier.
You also have little basis in saying that there's no way that Sundipped Superman could match the Imperiex Force when the only showing we have of him is doing something to that effect. I don't think it's as clear cut as Sundipped Superman >= Big Bang, but he was >= the portion of the Big Bang that Brainiac 13 was able to utilize. Which considering what he threatened to do with it was most likely quite a lot.
Originally posted by h1a8
Sundipped Superman is more powerful than any Skyfather. He overpowered the begotten Imperiex force.With that said, u have no proof to what you say. Writers portray CM has having the strength of Hercules, the power of Zues (explained through lightning), Stamina of Atlas (not strength), Wisdom of Solomon, speed of mercury, and invulnerability of Achilles.
No one can overwrite the writers intentions with speculation.
AH i see so a sundipped supes is greater then ODIN yes?