Superman Vs Captain Marvel

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I really don't think there's any more evidence to argue that the IF [b]wasn't using all it's power pushing against Supes than there is to argue that it was.

And really why wouldn't Brainiac push all his available power into resisting Supes' attempts to bfr him? Now I'm not agreeing with H1a8 that sundipped Superman > any Skyfather but in terms of raw strength Sundipped Superman was off the charts. He'd be at least Trans tier.

You also have little basis in saying that there's no way that Sundipped Superman could match the Imperiex Force when the only showing we have of him is doing something to that effect. I don't think it's as clear cut as Sundipped Superman >= Big Bang, but he was >= the portion of the Big Bang that Brainiac 13 was able to utilize. Which considering what he threatened to do with it was most likely quite a lot. [/B]

I can accept trans level.

Considering the collective effort it took to atempt to resist and then BFR the IF, I think it's safe to assume SM couldn't do it on his own against the force in direct combat even with the amp.

Yes, he overcame what brainiac was using of the force.

Originally posted by Stoic
Doesn't every punch from Captain Marvel penetrate Superman's defenses? Basically every hit gives him a major charlie horse. Am I right?

In short, no.

Originally posted by ankur29

Off of the top of my head I'd say Captain Marvel, he just seems a little bit neater, unique, and more interesting.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Off of the top of my head I'd say Captain Marvel, he just seems a little bit neater, unique, and more interesting.

Swamp-Thing is neat, unique, and interesting and I wouldn't want to be Swamp-Thing.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
None of which would determine how happy you'd be as him relative to Superman.

Swamp-Thing is neat, unique, and interesting and I wouldn't want to be Swamp-Thing.

Originally posted by 753
why not? chicks dig it

mhmm

I'd get my swamp tendrils into so much poon. 131

Originally posted by ankur29
writer's intention in almost every single appearance by the pair is that SM is CM's physical equal in every way, stop your double standards

and on top CM has magic to boot

Superman has more powers too. He can punch, HV, freeze breath all at the same time. Even if they had the same physicality, Superman would still stomp if he really fought at his best. Superman can just do far more useful things.

CM's advantages is non weakness to magic and kryptonite, ability to have sex with human women without killing them (by changing to mortal form), and immortality.

Superman's advantages is ability to sun dip and exceed most heralds and more powers (more versatile).

Originally posted by Stoic
What if a Sky Father started casting magic spells on him, and ripped the sun amping right out of him, who would he be more powerful then?

More powerful doesn't mean who would win but who can exert more force at one time.

Originally posted by ankur29

Originally posted by SamZED
Can you give me the name and the issue #? Id love to read that story.

It's Superman/Batman #3 or #4, iirc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's Superman/Batman #3 or #4, iirc.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
None of which would determine how happy you'd be as him relative to Superman.

Swamp-Thing is neat, unique, and interesting and I wouldn't want to be Swamp-Thing.

here is captain marvels power being used to kill 10,000 kryptonians

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
here is captain marvels power being used to kill[b] 10,000 kryptonians
[/B]

Fail.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
here is captain marvels power being used to kill[b] 10,000 kryptonians
[/B]

They just had a discussion before about not killing Kryptonians. They specifically use the word "affected" rather than "kill" or even "incapacitate".

Alan Scott says they pretty much just temporarily depowered them.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Where the hell did you get the idea that the blast killed anyone?

They just had a discussion before about not killing Kryptonians. They specifically use the word "affected" rather than "kill" or even "incapacitate".

Alan Scott says they pretty much just temporarily depowered them.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
depowering 10,000 people is still a great showing

It's without a doubt Freddy's best showing of power but it isn't nearly as great as you made it out to be. Freddy needed Zee's help to unleash that power, in this case he likely acted as a conduit to Shazam's lighting while Zee called it forth.

It's actually more Zatanna's feat than Freddy's tbh.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
depowering 10,000 people is still a great showing
lets see superman depower 10,000 captain marvels

Fail x 10,000 = Colossus C.

Trolllll.

Supes is the best Kryptonian and 95 % of the others are canon fodder.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
While amped by Zatanna and (possibly) Zatara.

It's without a doubt Freddy's best showing of power but it isn't nearly as great as you made it out to be. Freddy needed Zee's help to unleash that power, in this case he likely acted as a conduit to Shazam's lighting while Zee called it forth.

It's actually more Zatanna's feat than Freddy's tbh.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
🙄 just aknowledge that superman is no where near that level

Freddy simply isn't capable of it by himself.