Marvel's Most Powerful Demon? Zom vs Shuma Gorath vs Chthon vs Set

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yea if your basing the battles strange had with each than yea i would rate chthon higher

strange battled shuma and defeated him in his realm, where strange nearly died just by simply being in chthons realm even after he puts up forcefields, he then focuses a pure noble soul blast at chthon which made chthon smack him out of his realm

Pure noble soul blast would fail epically vs Set. Thor/Thing/Strange/Quasar attempted to fight Set in his realm and Thor fled for his life. First he attempted to go to Gaea for help, but Set was so powerful he had imprisoned her and was holding her captive against her will (she was so owned that she couldn't even call out for help). Then Thor fled to Atum and succeeded in tricking him into fighting Set. Atum won but Set didn't die, he was roughed up badly though.

Set fought Atum to a one million year standstill until Atum gained the upper hand.

Chthon has never dared fight Atum (directly or indirectly). The only reason he showed his face during that Dark Reign Avengers arc is because Atum recently died.

@King Kandy

I could have sworn that forelock was keeping Zom hidden from even the Living Tribunal's powers. I'll have to find the issue. And yes you were right about the forelock's removal unleashing evil.

And again the reason why my vote goes to Zom, Gorath didn't even register on the Tribunal's "oh crap, trouble" scale, while Zom did.

IMHO it's :
Zom
Gorath
Set
Chthon

based on narration/hyperbole... zom, based on fights n feats... Shuma or Set

Zom/Strange couldnt even beat WWH.

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Originally posted by The Nuul
Zom/Strange couldnt even beat WWH.

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zom strange isn't the same as zom my friend. Plus, he was waxing WWH, until he put his powers in check.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Zom/Strange couldnt even beat WWH.

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Zomling (a sliver of Zom's true power). And he was OWNING WWH until he started fighting Zom's influence. And this is after he got through owning the Warbound that were invading his sanctum.

Shuma is responsible for the Cancerverse

the cancerverse is described as a universe that was devouwerd by chthulu and the great old ones live there

Originally posted by zopzop
And again the reason why my vote goes to Zom, Gorath didn't even register on the Tribunal's "oh crap, trouble" scale, while Zom did.

Originally posted by King Kandy
[B]Zom didn't register to LT either (hence why it was Eternity who put him down originally).

It wasn't just Eternity. We know of at least one more person who was involved with Zom's downfall : Dormammu. I need to find that issue again.

LT destroyed him as part one of cleaning up the mystic anarchy (part two was going to be destroying the planet). If the forelock wasn't severed, LT wouldn't have cared because the evil was going to be in one being who could only harm so much.

And yet the Tribunal didn't care about Shuma at all and he supposedly conquered 1000s of dimensions. Something about Zom caused the Tribunal to interfere personally whereas Shuma was allowed to do whatever.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Shuma is responsible for the Cancerverse

the cancerverse is described as a universe that was devouwerd by chthulu and the great old ones live there

Thanos Imperative #3 says "cthonic gods" are responsible for the Cancerverse, getting an in when Captain Mar-vell was dying.

LT only deals with unbalances he doesnt care about neither right or wrong

shuma wasnt causing an unbalance, the vishantis magic balanced shumas

also the LT is a magical diety
the vishanti are the most poweful magic being under him (scans posted by mr master)

Originally posted by Q99
Thanos Imperative #3 says "cthonic gods" are responsible for the Cancerverse, getting an in when Captain Mar-vell was dying.

Originally posted by zopzop
It wasn't just Eternity. We know of at least one more person who was involved with Zom's downfall : Dormammu. I need to find that issue again.

Originally posted by zopzop
And yet the Tribunal didn't care about Shuma at all and he supposedly conquered 1000s of dimensions. Something about Zom caused the Tribunal to interfere personally whereas Shuma was allowed to do whatever.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Right, but that has nothing to do with the works of HP Lovecraft which is what Colossus seems to suggest.

also you forgot about cyttorak

Originally posted by King Kandy
And yet, this does not affect the point I was making. At all. My point is, Zom alone (without the forelock removal) never made LT intervene, during either of his rampages.

You're right. I just found the issue.

Zom caused a mystical imbalance, while Shuma did not.

Again you were right. This is what happens when I rely on wiki and my memory. Oh well.

I still say it goes : Zom > Shuma >>>>>>>>>>>>>Set > Chthon.

I agree with that analysis since Eternity alone apparently couldn't beat Zom, and Strange made it pretty clear Eternity>Shuma.

could of been differnt eternity, remember theres a higher manifestation of etenity

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
could of been differnt eternity, remember theres a higher manifestation of etenity

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
just think about it. the cancerverse was a universe that was concured by cthulu and the Great old ones live there as described in the imperative
shuma eats/conquore universes
shuma is also marvels attemp as cthulu
and shuma goraths pals are also called Great old ones not to mention a bunch of those cancerverse beings look like shuma