Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Then you obviously didn't understand much of the story then. The fact that you pointed out Ravenous' loss to Xenith as an example speaks volumes of your poor comprehension of the storyline.
No, I accept that different writers portray things differently, and that intent trumps consistency. In the case of Ravenous with or without curs being less powerful, I'm comfortable going either way, but I don't think that DnA were considering it when they wrote the character, in the same way that the fact that they ignored the final cliffhanger of Annihilation didn't mean that it didn't happen. The curs didn't come directly from Annihilus, they were just an easy method for him to control his soldiers.
That said, if that is the take you choose to have, I'm comfortable with it -- it was a less powerful Ravenous. That doesn't change the fact, then, that the seekers have an easily exploitable weakness and zero active feats to back up this mythical combat formidability you're spinning.
Disprove it then.
Again, do you not understand "Burden of Proof", and how that works? You're making a claim, and one that is totally nonsensical (that the destructive potential of the weapon has nothing to do with the fear with which it is perceived).
Even still, I've made the effort to get you to understand why you're wrong. Since you give no in book documentation to support this, I've used the only real world parallel that is appropriate (the Atomic Bomb).
I already mentioned that it drew energy from Black Bolt.
Not in your response to me, you didn't. You mentioned that the Kree had 'a little help from the Inhumans', ignoring that it was designed almost totally by the Inhumans' resident Super Genius Maximus and that it reflects not at all on the Kree level of technology.
But unless Black Bolt can suddenly wreck solar systems, the power of the bomb wasn't sorely due to his abilities.
Black Bolt's voice has often been utillized to power weapons and generate effects that he normally wouldn't be capable of.
Also, the Terrigen crystals were rendered inert FYI. Did you speedread thru War of Kings, too?
Yeah, it's not as if I mentioned that I hadn't read the book in a while, yes? And it's not as if the Terrigen Crytals were the most active part of the bomb as initially intended, yeah? And it's not as if the Bomb was being powered partially by Vulcan, right?
Again, YOU are the one who has badly misrepresented this feat as something applicable to the space faring races in general. This was an ultimate weapon designed by a genius far beyond anything the Kree was capable of, one that had been consistently improving upon Kree weaponry since the Royal Family took power. Add to that it was drawing on non replenishable power sources, and your point -- which was, after all, that 'planet destroying weaponry was no big deal' -- is revealed to be a woefully unsupportable.
Plus my point was not the power of the bomb but the fact that planet-busting isn't the "end all" technology for the MU that you keep trying to make it out to be. Would be nice if you started reading actual points instead of strawmaning everything I say.
The saddest part of this is you really don't understand why dismantling your argument above revealed the support for your point to be flimsier that grass.
And to be clear, I'm not saying that planet destroying technology is the 'end all' for technology in the MU. I'm saying that in the context of this story, in the science fiction MU scene, it certainly was.
Characters like Reed Richards or Dr. Doom develop technology to create pocket universes or kill celestials. But in terms of the MU at large, at least in Annihilation, two things were an extremely big deal -- a planet destroying weapon and teleportation technology. Both of these are commonplace in the mythology of the New Gods, even when they are at their worst.
Yes. It DID wreck the entire system as shown by the artwork.
Nope, sorry. Only thing definitively shown destroyed was a planet and a moon.
You didn't read Annihilation at all did you? Surfer blew up TWO planets there. :-/ One to escape the Seekers the 2nd to prove a point.
Haha, what? In issue one, you better have some evidence that Surfer destroyed a planet. Not only was there not a planet to destroy, just a debris field, but ON TOP OF THAT all we saw is that he released a big blast of energy as he left to keep them off his tale.
You've literally invented this event. Perhaps now you'll see how warped your perception is, how desperate you are for any of your points to hold merit?
He destroyed one planet, after being powered up, and the act of it made Ravenous say "How...what have you become?" indicating, I might add, that such a thing was impossibly impressive and far beyond HIS reach.
The fact that you don't seem to know this speaks volumes of your understanding. :-/
Again, you're being facile -- is an Atomic Bomb feared because of the destructive power it holds or not?
Your argument, from the way you've presented it, is that destroying planets is commonplace in MU space tech. But what was constantly stressed was that this was a PLANET DESTROYER, and you've ignored it as if it was some small add on. What was it that Super Skrull first commented on, when he talked about it in awed tones? It was the fact that it dissembled a planet. "A weapon of incredible power", 'the most powerful weapon the Annihilation Wave has".
Interpreting at anything else is pure fanboyism.
Yeah, I'm sure the fact that it was 'unstoppable' was terrifying, but the fact that it was unstoppable only further serves to underscore the low level of military technology we're dealing with, at least as compares to Apokolips.