Omega Mutants vs. JLA

Started by Decimus4 pages
Originally posted by 753
lol, not in comics (or real life) flash and SS move ftl all the time and dont end up in the future or the past. and it is obvious that rravelling to another universe/timeline is harder than visiting another dimension. how many times has flash time-travelled on his own btw?

Well u have a point but there are a couple things id like to point out. When surfer or anybody travels light years in a few minutes or less than a day they are time traveling _but writers either don't know or care enough for them to weave their stories around this concept or they don't know the implications of the concept. So whenever FTL travel is involved it is PIS when no time travel takes place. That what happens because consistency is the ultimate measuring stick so FTL is diluted for the story's sake. I don't believe concepts like faster than light travel would be introduced without the thought being taken to it's logical conclusion even by semi-competent writers. As for real life what ever rules cannot be broken can be bent. FTL travel will be possible it just is a question of imagination and creativity as well as time.

[QUOTE=13309855]Originally posted by inimalist
[B]radiation also doesn't give you spider powers...

/the more you know

yes, this is good

you should BZ 753 about biology 😄 [/

I much rather with physics since I majored in astro physics

I know for a fact that Flashes can travel using the cosmic treadmill. And I think Barry has been able to do it on his own, and so has Wally when he outran the Black Flash.

Yeah, I hear where you are coming from. It doesn't make sense. But it's a price we pay for reading comics. Sometimes you just have to ignore the plot holes. srug

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
flash's topspeeds are probably > surfers'
no if and or but about it depending on the flash. Anyone with speedforce barrier break has far better combat speed.

Originally posted by Decimus
Literally the flash and superman can live at the very least days of time in one sec and that's being nice. Light travels one foot per nano sec and both superman and flash can exceed this at will when they want to. First of all Flash doesn't seem to build lactic acid and if he does it is not noticeable since the speed force negates friction from the equation so work basically becomes viewed as negligible to in relation to him so it seems he can do what he does theoretically indefinitely. There is no m(v); v > c, m = ∞ to worry about when it comes to the Flash unless he wants it applied i.e. imp. _Superman while affected by friction still does compete with the Flash to some extent which shows how ridiculous his molecular density and cellular shielding is. He either has something equivalent to mitochondria that works in either the upper dimensions or on a level that is going towards strings. These are the two most likely possibilities considering Clarke's non need for anything really other that G V class radiation. _This is by far the most fascinating thing that allows him to store energy and continuously absorb more and more radiation and convert it into compounds similar to ATP that his body can use to readily gain incredible speed and strength in times of extreme physical or mental stress. _It also has been speculated that he warps or controls gravitons to fly and negate mass (also tactilekinesis to avoid objects collapsing under there own weight) that he has transferred to him via things like lets say a planet. Tanking the friction would also lighten part of what is involved in a lifting,punching and speed feats. _In relative terms for his size superman is on par with a relatively small singularity but his destructive output in bursts over time seems to exceed even that. Superman definitely has connections to string theory (the higher dimension control of various attributes) as well as some and inferential info tying into M theory. Which makes sense because the Kryptonians were extremely advanced and _they would either genetically augment themselves or use their tech to maximize their survival of a possible universal end. Superman is a prime example of that convoluted science at play in his very being. Things that are currently found were actually found long ago and placed into the kryptonian species before their untimely demise. The Flash defies physics and Superman is beyond even a moderate understanding of all conventional physics and biochemistry but we can still generate a picture that is more accurate than not when comparing characters nevertheless. Superman doesn't have the speed force so he should actually turn into a black hole before ever reaching light speed due to his energy being converted into mass. (Yet it doesn't happen) Then u have Nate Grey trying to tie Planck time or length in his power set when he is not the product of an extremely advanced (at least class II) civilization just AoA Sinister is just funny. Anyway I digress if Nate has time he can win but he won't if the opposing team is in to win without holding back.

dude, seriously...

1. look at the size of that post

2. all comic book charatcers violate physics (hulk and wolverine have regenerated from skeletons in seconds, that's mass conservation for you) and atempting to tie them to real world physics is completely futile. writers and most readers dont give a **** because comics are fantasy. you're going on a speculative rampage to make sense out of their powersets. just accept them.

3. the flash does not produce lactic acid, but the lack of atriction would not make acid lactic production irrelevant as contracting his muscles to move his own mass arround would already produce it and so they could lock up because of it just the same. his stamina would not become infinite because of a lack of atriction either - incidentally his stamina is infinite because the speedforce sustains him - but most importantly, none of this real world crap matters, because comics aren't about reality

4. you are making too much shit up to explain their powers. SM's powers are an accident. kryptonians living under their red sun and dying like morons for ingnoring jor-el didnt even know they'd gain superpowers if exposed to yellow sunlight. SM is not the product of an imaginary eugenics program to create super beings. there was no such program

5. lol at their class 2 civilization tech vs mr sinister because:

a) mutants were created by the genetic engineering of the celestials (you know, the space gods to whom kryptonians are microbes) to become abstratc level beings. MS just realized the power an offspring of the summers and grey bloodlines would have and then collected their genetic material and grew the brat in a vat. he didn't engineer him.

b) the most powerfull mutants like the scarlet witch are reality warpers that can destroy and recreate the entire omniverse with a thought. wrap some physics arround that.

Burn.

Regarding Superman's powers: his heart is basically a nuclear reactor that uses sunlight or basically starlight itself, as a catalyst to supply him with energy.

And Sinister gets way too much credit for his genetic engineering. As stated, Nate Grey was a result of his observing the power of two bloodlines and crossing them. He got his start on genetics thanks to the High Evolutionary. And later, via Apocalypse. Whose technology he stole after trying to kill Apoc with a techno-organic virus.