Surfer & Hulk vs. Thor.& Herc

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

😂 That's it. The cosmic wanking in this board has gone through the roof. It's downright ridiculous now.

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Team two stomps in a spite thread. Current Hercules is like Cosmic level now.

My point was it's really between Thor and the SS. Herc is a non factor. I mean you may as well throw in Sif too. None of them have any energy projection, they can't fly, no mind powers, no super speed, nothing aside from brute strength. But it seems he's gotten a recent powerup that changes things. That's a different story.

Because if it's classic Herc, he's just there to cheerlead for Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Team two stomps in a spite thread. Current Hercules is like Cosmic level now.

I think it's safe to say that his at or approaching the Cosmic tier. At the very least, his above Skyfather level.

Originally posted by zopzop
My point was it's really between Thor and the SS. Herc is a non factor. I mean you may as well throw in Sif too. None of them have any energy projection, they can't fly, no mind powers, no super speed, nothing aside from brute strength. But it seems he's gotten a recent powerup that changes things. That's a different story.

Because if it's classic Herc, he's just there to cheerlead for Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think it's safe to say that his at or approaching the Cosmic tier. At the very least, his above Skyfather level.

A) Who was he fighting? Looks like a ghetto version of the Silver Surfer

B) If that is the Surfer, it still don't make Herc anywhere near Skyfather level. Odin has SWATTED him like a fly. And I'm betting if he really wanted to, he could have insta-killed Norrin.

C) Why did he collapse after beating the ghetto Surfer up? Thanos has pummeled the Surfer to death with 8 or so punches and Thanos is under Skyfather level of power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think it's safe to say that his at or approaching the Cosmic tier. At the very least, his above Skyfather level.

That was cool, I'm still undecided, he passed out after so? Don't get me wrong, it was impressive, I question his stamina though.

Originally posted by zopzop
A) Who was he fighting? Looks like a ghetto version of the Silver Surfer

B) If that is the Surfer, it still don't make Herc anywhere near Skyfather level. Odin has SWATTED him like a fly. And I'm betting if he really wanted to, he could have insta-killed Norrin.

C) Why did he collapse after beating the ghetto Surfer up? Thanos has pummeled the Surfer to death with 8 or so punches and Thanos is under Skyfather level of power.

Lol. I wasn't using that as evidence. I just felt you were underestimating Hercules. It's from an alternate Universe by the way. A great fight actually. Old school writers like Layton make me realize how shitty so many modern comics are.

That was the Silver Surfer but not Norrin Radd. A new herald of Galactus. Norrin had died.

Hercules is at the very least Skyfather level. He would solo this fight currently. His nearly as powerful as Thor nowadays you know.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Hercules is at the very least Skyfather level. He would solo this fight currently. His nearly as powerful as Thor nowadays you know.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how is being weaker than thor make him a skyfather? your logic is silly

Thor > Skyfathers

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor > Skyfathers

thor is high herald at best

thanos would be low skyfather

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Surfer beats thor.

And yet, Surfer and Thor have been shown to be on equal footing in each of their fights, with a slight edge to Thor.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ummm...are you drunk?

thor is high herald at best

thanos would be low skyfather

Thanos would be around Thor level on a good day.

High herald at best? That's not true. And I'm being serious here.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos would be around Thor level on a good day.

High herald at best? That's not true. And I'm being serious here.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos would be around Thor level on a good day.

High herald at best? That's not true. And I'm being serious here.

Lol.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so does that make hulk skyfather too...cuz thor struggles and sometimes even loses to hulk.

Thor struggles with the Hulk because he chooses to. The Hulk has only defeated Thor once in that memory sequence of Banner's.

Of course, you count non cannon shit so whatever.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

Thor struggles with the Hulk because he chooses to. The Hulk has only defeated Thor once in that memory sequence of Banner's.

Of course, you count non cannon shit so whatever.

So who's stronger? Hercules or the current Hulk?

He does. Joking aside, Thor chooses to engage Hulk in hand to hand. He doesn't have to. He could end the fight easily.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He does. Joking aside, Thor chooses to engage Hulk in hand to hand. He doesn't have to. He could end the fight easily.

This remains to be seen.

Originally posted by Stoic
This remains to be seen.

It doesn't have to be seen. We know that it's the case and only the stupidest Gammatards would argue otherwise.

If Thor wants to end the Hulk or a battle with the Hulk, it will end. And Thor will come out on top.

Thor chooses to engage his opponents in hand to hand. He doesn't have to as seen on the occasions he chooses to battle field remove opponents and so on.

Well in that case he wins via bfr, but to say that he wins in a physical contest against someone that beat Rulk on those same terms (h2h), is yet to be seen.

The same applies to Hercules, until he has surpasses the feats set by Hulk in the past 4 years there is no proof that either team would win.

Has Thor dropped in power since his fight with Rulk? If so things seem a little sketchy for him to dominate either of these guys since they have gotten upgrades, and Thor I assume is back to classic levels? Am I right at all about any of this?