Surfer & Hulk vs. Thor.& Herc

Originally posted by Starscream M
well agreed that average hulk is under skyfather in physical contest

but WWH or World breaker hulk would push the shit in skyfather's faces in a purely physical contest. I could see WBH stomping Odin if Odin was foolish enough to engage in a melee fight.

Hahaha. No.

You might not know this, but Odin isn't limited to operating at the 70 ton level like it says in the hand books. His able to augment his strength by tapping into his well of power.

Odin is not going to do worse than the Juggernaut or the Sentry against the Green Scar you moron.

Anyone on Odin's level or above would put a fist through Hulk's face while shrugging of his attacks. Yes, even the fabled World Breaker.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha. No.

You might not know this, but Odin isn't limited to operating at the 70 ton level like it says in the hand books. His able to augment his strength by tapping into his well of power.

Odin is not going to do worse than the Juggernaut or the Sentry you moron against Green Scar. Anyone on Odin's level or above would put a fist through any Hulk's face while shrugging of this punches. Yes, even World Breaker.

WBH is in another physical class compared to Odin

Odin is not THAT powerful physically, he is above herald and around Thanos level

WBH transcends that...his walking was crushing continents...odin can't dream of doing that...even in his thousand year odinsleep 🙂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha. No.

You might not know this, but Odin isn't limited to operating at the 70 ton level like it says in the hand books. His able to augment his strength by tapping into his well of power.

Odin is not going to do worse than the Juggernaut or the Sentry against the Green Scar you moron.

Anyone on Odin's level or above would put a fist through Hulk's face while shrugging of his attacks. Yes, even the fabled World Breaker.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Ummmmm....no

What do you consider Cosmic then? Hercules has omniscience. The raw power he possesses is far beyond Zeus and is enough to defeat the Council of Godheads.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Surfer would beat thor in a fight.Its simple.Surfer is just a little above thor.

Really? Please explain to me how it's simple.

Surfer's just a little bit above Thor? Based on what? Because your clearly not taking into account their fights.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you consider Cosmic then? Hercules has omniscience. The raw power he possesses is far beyond Zeus and is enough to defeat the Council of Godheads.

Really? Please explain to me how it's simple.

Surfer's just a little bit above Thor? Based on what? Because your clearly not taking into account their fights.

I am.Surfer beats all in herald level.Even if only slightly.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't know if at this point you're simply trolling or actually believe the nonsense you're spewing

WBH is in another physical class compared to Odin

Odin is not THAT powerful physically, he is above herald and around Thanos level

WBH transcends that...his walking was crushing continents...odin can't dream of doing that...even in his thousand year odinsleep 🙂

😐

Do you not understand that Odin can transfer his raw power into physical might? The raw power that allows him to bust easily bust Galaxies, alter reality, and create dimensions?

Odin will put a fist through Hulk's face while laughing off his attacks. Don't even get me started on beings above Odin. Hulk can rage and rage for a week and he won't do shit to Galactus unless his severely weakened.

A severely weakened, drained and poisoned Odin easily took out Ulik in one shot so even this 70 ton ranking is off.

You should re-read the appearances of World Breaker. Nowhere was he crushing continents.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😐

Do you not understand that Odin can transfer his raw power into physical might? The raw power that allows him to bust easily bust Galaxies, alter reality, and create dimensions?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Hmmm...never heard of that.

I am.Surfer beats all in herald level.Even if only slightly.

The new Prince of Power series. Vali -like Loki's fourth child- wanted the power Hercules gained to defeat the council and take over the pantheons of Earth.

The writer(s) recently stated that Hercules possesses power far beyond that of Zeus.

Meh.

Surfer, fighting smart, transmutes the air around Hercules and Thor's hands, arms, and feet into adamantium restraints in the first microseconds of battle so they can't fight back or move, or grasp their weapons (Mjolnir and Mace). He then puts a hypnotic suggestion and illusion into Hulk's mind so Thor and Hercules look like Miek and Glenn Talbot mocking him for Caiera's death and not being able to take care of his women, then he stands back and watches.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Meh.

Surfer, fighting smart, transmutes the air around Hercules and Thor's hands, arms, and feet into adamantium restraints in the first microseconds of battle so they can't fight back or move, or grasp their weapons (Mjolnir and Mace)

Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't care about theoretical possibilities. What was odin's greatest display of PHYSICAL power?

What theoretical possibilities? We know that Odin can augment his physical might. Even if Odin had never done so on panel before it would logically be well within his abilities. When Heimdall was granted a small fraction of the Odin Power, he took a full on swing from Masterson Thor to the face and didn't even notice it.

Probably taking out Ulik in one hit. Odin is beyond simply physical displays of strength. When he looks like his slugging it out, he isn't just slugging it out:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When he looks like his slugging it out, he isn't just slugging it out:

odin's punch did nothing more than infuriate

odin once again relied on his energy attacks

listen, odin's physical abilities are nothing to brag about...WBH would trounce the old bag

Originally posted by illadelph12
Meh.

Surfer, fighting smart, transmutes the air around Hercules and Thor's hands, arms, and feet into adamantium restraints in the first microseconds of battle so they can't fight back or move, or grasp their weapons (Mjolnir and Mace). He then puts a hypnotic suggestion and illusion into Hulk's mind so Thor and Hercules look like Miek and Glenn Talbot mocking him for Caiera's death and not being able to take care of his women, then he stands back and watches.

Oh ho ho. So we get to make up fan fic eh?

Thor teleports himself out of the Adamantium restraints -his done so before- and then mentally orders Mjolnir to teleport inside of Norrin where it releases a blast of Anti-Force.

And I'm assuming -hoping- that this is classic Hercules in your scenario.

Originally posted by Starscream M
that example proves my point

odin's punch did nothing more than infuriate

odin once again relied on his energy attacks

listen, odin's physical abilities are nothing to brag about...WBH would trounce the old bag

I have officially lost hope for KMC.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I have officially lost hope for KMC.

you fail to back up your statements

Hulk's high-end physical feats (punching onslaught, crushing continental plates, etc) far outclasses odin's physical feats

Originally posted by Starscream M
you should

you fail to back up your statements

Hulk's high-end physical feats (punching onslaught, crushing continental plates, etc) far outclasses odin's physical feats

Do you not know how to read you dumb piece of shit?

In the scene I posted, what we saw was a simple slug fest but in actuality it was a battle that was destroying Galaxies and was waged on every plane of reality.

If Odin turned his power into physical might -which he can- he would rip Hulk into pieces. Trying to argue otherwise is retarded.

Hulk never crushed continental plates. Stop making shit up. And breaking through Onslaught's armor isn't that great. Not if you realize it's what Onslaught wanted.

thor is more powerful than surfer
do people just ignore feats now and place there own opnions?
thor has transmutation powers

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
do people just ignore feats now and place there own opnions?

Pretty late.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And breaking through Onslaught's armor isn't that great. Not if you realize it's what Onslaught wanted.

yes, onslaught wanted his armor to be cracked...yet no one else COULD (including Thor). Only Hulk, through his rage, had the capacity to crush it. That was a heck of an impressive feat...so don't lowball it just cuz it wasn't goldilocks who did it.