Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Weak people drink tea 😂
Everything fits!
I'm wary of studies since they are obviously sponsored by the interested parties. I mean, people say that a glass of wine gives health advantages too, but that's hardly the point of drinking wine, it's more of a sales argument.
Originally posted by red g jacks
do you get the sense from reading the bible stories that satan was rebelling out of some righteous cause?because from what i remember about him, he basically just tries to subvert god's plans for the sake of doing so... it's a power play not a moral stance
I don't think there was a righteous cause for the rebellion. I don't think it was good or bad. That is kind of the point.
but the biblical god is clearly supposed to be a force of good, from the perspective of the ancient israelite. and satan is only there to subvert him. he's a force of destruction and decay.
You say the biblical God is supposed to be a force for good, but then before you were talking about essentially blaming it on the fact it was a different era in time.
Look I'm not a scholar, but I do know the biblical God murdered a lot more people then Satan. So if Satan is a force of destruction, I don't know what that makes God then?
so if you are a modern and secular person and you worship that... then yea it doesn't mean you are bad but it makes you look pretty silly imo.
It's no more silly then any other religion though.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's all about how one interprets things. Yes, if a person thinks Satan is evil and is worshipping him..that is messed up.
What the hell else would they think?
Nobody thinks evil is good, and good is evil.
You see a homeless man, asking for money on the street.
What person thinks they are doing a service by beating the shit out of the homeless man instead?
Originally posted by Surturyea. by the ancient israelites standards he was a force for good. killing their enemies seemed like a good thing to them. i did make that disclaimer that i was talking about the p.o.v. of the ancient israelites.
You say the biblical God is supposed to be a force for good, but then before you were talking about essentially blaming it on the fact it was a different era in time.Look I'm not a scholar, but I do know the biblical God murdered a lot more people then Satan. So if Satan is a force of destruction, I don't know what that makes God then?
ancient people were kind of ****ed up in general.... nothing especially violent about the abrahamic faiths compared to similar religions from that time.
It's no more silly then any other religion though.i would agree except for the fact that there's a cultural legacy involved with the surviving religions... so it seems less silly to me that people might have irrational beliefs based on some cultural baggage than a supposed secular free thinking person inventing a new set of irrational beliefs.
Satan represents evil.
If you're a Satanist that does not adhere to his principles of death, destruction, and decay... then you were never truly a Satanist in the first place.
The LaVey sect is nothing more than sex-hungry atheists hiding under the banner of Satan's image. If they don't worship and glorify Satan and everything evil, then it's nothing more than a fake Satanist cult.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Satan represents evil.If you're a Satanist that does not adhere to his principles of death, destruction, and decay... then you were never truly a Satanist in the first place.
The LaVey sect is nothing more than sex-hungry atheists hiding under the banner of Satan's image. If they don't worship and glorify Satan and everything evil, then it's nothing more than a fake Satanist cult.
Satan not only represents evil, he also represent temptation (that's the origin of the world). If a Satan of any kind went on brutally wounding everyone, he could not probably make evil behavior attractive.
But violence is attractive. Vices are attractive. What religious people call "sins" are "attractive."
People love violence. It is part of human nature -- to be violent, lustful, rebellious, hateful. The only things standing in the way of our chaotic ways are the law/constitution and what people call "morality."
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Satan represents evil.If you're a Satanist that does not adhere to his principles of death, destruction, and decay... then you were never truly a Satanist in the first place.
The LaVey sect is nothing more than sex-hungry atheists hiding under the banner of Satan's image. If they don't worship and glorify Satan and everything evil, then it's nothing more than a fake Satanist cult.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
What the hell else would they think?Nobody thinks evil is good, and good is evil.
You see a homeless man, asking for money on the street.
What person thinks they are doing a service by beating the shit out of the homeless man instead?
There are some interpretations of Satan as not being evil..that was my point. Thus, if someone interprets Satan as a figure that isn't evil and worships him..that person isn't evil nor are they endorsing any kind of evil behavior.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
What the hell else would they think?Nobody thinks evil is good, and good is evil.
You see a homeless man, asking for money on the street.
What person thinks they are doing a service by beating the shit out of the homeless man instead?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_Satanism
"Unlike LaVeyan Satanism, as founded by Anton LaVey in the 1960s, theistic Satanism is theistic as opposed to atheistic, believing that Satan (Hebrew: הַשָׂטָן ha-Satan, ‘the accuser’) is a real entity rather than an archetype."
LaVeyan Satanism is just pseudo-Satanism. It is an atheistic Satanism sect.