I actually came across a reasonably good article the other day that explained the case of "missing" young Jesus fairly well in depth. Click and read the following, please, and let me know what you think of it:
https://bible.org/seriespage/6-day-jesus-went-awol-luke-239-52
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I actually came across a reasonably good article the other day that explained the case of "missing" young Jesus fairly well in depth. Click and read the following, please, and let me know what you think of it:https://bible.org/seriespage/6-day-jesus-went-awol-luke-239-52
While we must grant that Jesus was without sin, how is it that His actions here, which were regarded as wrong by His parents, are not wrong? Why can Jesus’ actions not be wrong for Him, when they would have been wrong for any other Jewish (or Gentile for that matter) boy?
Through the power of delusion and cognitive dissonance...
Originally posted by Bardock42
Through the power of delusion and cognitive dissonance...
Just out of curiosity, how MUCH "delusion" do you believe is involved here?
I mean, doubtless we're intended to assume you don't believe in God, let alone that Jesus Christ was and is God, but do you even believe there was such a person with that name living in the community? With parents named Mary and Joseph? Or do you not believe even that much?
Originally posted by Star428...I'm a christian who was raised in a christian household, and even I know that there is no "proof" of God's existence.
Who cares what atheists believe or don't believe? Their non-belief doesn't change what I know to be fact and, in the end, they're only hurting themselves when they continue to deny God's existence. 👆They're in for a rude awakening, to say the least.
Let-alone calling any of it "fact".
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I am a member of The Satanic Temple of New York. What sort of person supports The Satanic Temple? I think an awesome person. 😆
Originally posted by Surtur
If Joseph and Mary were unaware he left that would mean he left without their knowledge. More or less means he ran away/ditched them. Doesn't sound like shit a perfect being would do.
If you want to get technical there is a difference between being perfect and being without sin. A sin is technically an offense towards God, so as long as you're not offending God you can be as imperfect as you want.
Originally posted by Bentley
If you want to get technical there is a difference between being perfect and being without sin. A sin is technically an offense towards God, so as long as you're not offending God you can be as imperfect as you want.
Ah but here is the kicker: plenty of religious folk describe the dude as sinless and perfect. My religion teacher in school, for instance, flat out said Jesus was perfect.
He isn't perfect though and that example I listed isn't even the only example that shows it. But now we go further: isn't Jesus technically his own father? Isn't Jesus an aspect of God? The bible was never too clear on this, first he's the son of God, then no wait he also IS God as well. But then he can't be God because by definition God is perfect, yes? Even a part of God should be perfect since..well, 1/100th of omnipotence is still omnipotence.
Orr are we entering into Dick Nixon territory where it's "not a sin if God does it" ?
Originally posted by Jesus McBurger
The satanic temple is a group of people who use their satanic look for edginess.... They are more of a political group than satanists.... I'm more on the Side of the cos that actually follows philosophy.....and why does the satanic temple attack the cos?
The Satanic Temple is an organization of secularists who are mobilized to defend individual liberty and the separation of church and state.
Stoic: I am not a satanist, but I was wondering what people thought of the subject, and those who subscribe to this theology?
Symmetric Chaos: Which kind of Satanism?
Stoic: Judeo Christian perspectives, are all I've got. So the terms used in the Bible/Torah precepts, would be the perspective of this thread ...
Unless ... Do you have any other perspectives on the subject?
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I sometimes wonder if something happened while I was asleep or if someone put a Mickey in something I drank when I visit this place.
A Religion forum, run by avowed atheists?
Where many of the people name themselves after demons? Or even for the disguised form of "father of demons" in the case of one lapsed Mormon?
There's a lapsed Catholic telling me no one here is a Satanist despite this 5 year old thread being bumped by a person who claims he is one. Then again, that same lapsed Catholic currently has an altered form of the All-Seeing Eye as an avatar, and tells me a conglomeration of several thousand people is all but insignificant in a year where I've seen the will of exactly ONE person override the voting objections of millions. Then I am presented with a shield bearing the image of the Serpent when reading the posts of one claiming to be Christian as another poster with "Jesus" being part of his screenname gives welcome greeting to the Devil himself. Considered seriously, even for a moment, it's ... a bit much to take in. I'm tempted to say it makes little sense. Unfortunately, that's not true. It's absurd, to be sure, but it makes quite a bit of sense, if, going by the original poster, it is genuinely considered from a Biblical perspective.
Stoic, if you're actually curious and taking your definitions of "good and bad" from the perspective of the Bible (as alluded to in your second post in this thread), your premise might be wrong.
"Does being a Satanist make you a bad person?" presupposes there is such a thing as a good person who can be examined for contrast.
Does that idea find support in the Bible?
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9 What then? are we better [than they]? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
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https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-3-10/