Originally posted by illadelph12actually, there is. There's a moment when Stark steps on a building and Shunsui attacks from the shadow Stark's foot cast...
Any shadow?How about bodily shadows? Any feats of him attacking out of the shadows a person's own body creates?
wait a bit, lemme find the page.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said that Wonder Woman doesnt have super speed, I stated that she cannot and have never shown that she can fight in the fashion as the scenes that was presented because again, she doesnt have the feats. Can she tage flash, sure, she is an expert; she has the experience to time her attacks which is what she was doing. Hell, she admitted during a fight against Flash (that was suffering from a Virus) that she had to time her attack in order to stop him. When Wonder Woman fight flash, Zoom, or whatever other speedster that she fight, she get overwhelmed, blitzed, etc...No Flash fight should be used as evidence of super speed unless she actualy show the ability of keep up with them during a blitz.
None of what you just said is actually true. 😬
Originally posted by -Pr-
None of what you just said is actually true. 😬
What makes Wonder Woman tagging Flash any different than Deathstroke tagging flash, Grundy tagging Flash, Nightwing tagging Flash, Darkseid tagging Flash, etc...
Everyone that I named has a dose of super speed. You cant choose a feat for one person and discredit it for others.
As it pertains to WW's speed, what Carver (and I) want to see, is Wonder Woman using combat speed/lateral quickness... changing direction, her ability to maneuver and avoid attacks at a high level of speed. You're gonna need to prove she can change directions very quickly to have any hope of convincing me she doesn't die from the cascade of attacks being thrown at her.
Byakuya alone has thousands upon thousands of tiny blades that move a supersonic speeds. She'd have avoid being shredded while also avoiding poisonous gas, nukes and aging aura.
Originally posted by King KandyProbably, but with all the people/attacks she's gonna be avoiding, i doubt it would be strictly an air battle.
I believe he has done this (not going to look for a scan). However if they are flying, that wouldn't be particularly helpful.
Originally posted by marwash22
As it pertains to WW's speed. What Carver (and I) wan't to see, is Wonder Woman using combat speed/lateral quickness... changing direction, her ability to maneuver and avoid attacks at a high level of speed. You're gonna need to prove she can change directions very quickly to have any hope of convincing me she doesn't die from the cascade of attacks being thrown at her.
OMG... this is the best way of saying it. 💃
Couldnt have said it better. This is what I have been trying to say for ages.
Good post marwash.
Originally posted by carver9
What makes Wonder Woman tagging Flash any different than Deathstroke tagging flash, Grundy tagging Flash, Nightwing tagging Flash, Darkseid tagging Flash, etc...Everyone that I named has a dose of super speed. You cant choose a feat for one person and discredit it for others.
Also I'm still waiting for you to provide those 4+ instances of Hawkman stalemating Black Adam. Of course you could save some time and admit you were talking out of your ass.
Originally posted by marwash22
As it pertains to WW's speed. What Carver (and I) wan't to see, is Wonder Woman using combat speed/lateral quickness... changing direction, her ability to maneuver and avoid attacks at a high level of speed. You're gonna need to prove she can change directions very quickly to have any hope of convincing me she doesn't die from the cascade of attacks being thrown at her.Byakuya alone has thousands upon thousand of tiny blades that move a supersonic speeds. She'd have avoid being shredded while also avoid poisonous gas and aging aura.
Probably, but with all the people/attacks she's gonna be avoiding, i doubt it would be strictly an air battle.
Originally posted by marwash22
As it pertains to WW's speed. What Carver (and I) wan't to see, is Wonder Woman using combat speed/lateral quickness... changing direction, her ability to maneuver and avoid attacks at a high level of speed. You're gonna need to prove she can change directions very quickly to have any hope of convincing me she doesn't die from the cascade of attacks being thrown at her.Byakuya alone has thousands upon thousand of tiny blades that move a supersonic speeds. She'd have avoid being shredded while also avoid poisonous gas and aging aura.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/26/1228690_560x867.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/26/1228691_560x867.jpg
Senbonzakura won't give her trouble, at all. Besides, you can outrun it.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I believe he has done this (not going to look for a scan). However if they are flying, that wouldn't be particularly helpful.
It would be when you consider that when a person is flying, depending on the angle of the sun, the side of their body opposite the sun, which has the light to obstructed by their own mass, becomes shaded.
That could be an avenue of attack depending on how this power works.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because Wonder Woman has many other feats of superspeed to back it up, a lot of which were posted in this thread.Also I'm still waiting for you to provide those 4+ instances of Hawkman stalemating Black Adam. Of course you could save some time and admit you were talking out of your ass.
Shattered God feat. It was posted here.
Show us something combat wise and can you show us something that isnt over 15 years old.
Originally posted by King Kandythat proves almost nothing.
Senbonzakura won't give her trouble, at all. Besides, you can outrun it.
Okay, she can stand in one place and deflect multiple incoming objects at very high speed; BUT...
what good is that going to do her when there are multiple attacks... some of which cannot be batted away? When she's standing there deflecting Byakuya's blades, Mayuri poisons her, Baraggan ages her, Shunsui attacks her from behind, etc...
Originally posted by King Kandyfrom what i've seen thus far, that pink shit will be going after her and she'll be avoiding/blocking it, but that doesn't cover the other simultaneous attacks from the other 20+ named characters in the series of considerable power/skill
Senbonzakura won't give her trouble, at all. Besides, you can outrun it.
wonder woman still has a turned back
spam attacks suck
Originally posted by marwash22
that proves almost nothing.Okay, she can stand in one place and deflect multiple incoming objects at very high speed; BUT...
what good is that going to do her when there are multiple attacks... some of which cannot be batted away?
You know, this whole combat speed vs. travel speed thing is ridiculous. If a person can move their body in any direction and maneuver around obstacles in their path with pinpoint precision at C, chances are they can dodge an attacker coming at them.
I see that argument used against Surfer all the time and it makes me want to throw up.
Originally posted by illadelph12
You know, this whole combat speed vs. travel speed thing is ridiculous. If a person can move their body in any direction and maneuver around obstacles in their path with pinpoint precision at C, chances are they can dodge an attacker coming at them.I see that argument used against Surfer all the time and it makes me want to throw up.
