Dragonage v.s. LoK

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just told you I didn't play those games so why even bring them up.

Fable's heroes were crushed by a band of humans said by you. I mean come on man your own words turned against you.

The sheer forces they'd amass against fable would actually terrify the fable universe. If a guy with a pistol and the ability to make you sleep can dominate the fable verse the darkspawn would rape fable.

Oh and those humans had guns. Which would absolutely tip the scales in Fable's favor.

It matters not, the combined power of the Court allowed them to drive an entire country insane, raise seas into the sky and create country-wide floods, and burn Albion black.

William Black and the Queen of Blades when fighting created mountains and flattened them to make valleys.

Fable is far more powerful.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Te combined armies are not as large as your bringing up. The Darkspawn maybe but throughout DAO the humans were on their back foot throughout, and when they did come together their army was trivial yet they still managed to put up a very good fight agaisnt the Darkspawn in the beginning of the game, if it was not becuse of Logain (Simon templeman played the voice of this guy as well didnt he?) holding back his forces, he would have done devasating damage to the lot of them.

And Raziel could easily kill the Dragon, canonically the majority of the greater Darpspawn including the dragon were killed by a few Grey Wardens which if you want to compare to Raziel then youve not played LoK enough, their not much better than humans. Raziel would rip the Dragons head off with a hand.

Lok armies would arguably be larger, youve got the human race in the form of the Sarafan, vampire hunters and later the higher tech humans in SR who had flamethrowers and hand canons...so their tech and possibly numbers are superior. Their armies are more disciplined, sure youve got a few generals on the DAO side but how do they compare to ancient vampire generals whove had experiance thousands years their senior?

Then the vampire armies, in BO, BO2 and pre-eras their superior to humans by far in statistics, have mental, magcial and physical prowess that is mountanous in their advantage and in the SR era? dont get me started, even the fledlings can trade blows with Raziel and their resistance to his hundred tonnes of strength (multiplied by claws) force him to find other ways to truly kill them. An army of them lead by Kain and his sons.....DAO would be a joke.

Hell, its a joke with just Kain on the battlefield, throwing their armies at kain? they may as well order them to jump off a cliff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Time for your lesson then.

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Scream you're a god damned fool, and I love you.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I didn't bring up the humans did I?

Oh and those humans had guns. Which would absolutely tip the scales in Fable's favor.

It matters not, the combined power of the Court allowed them to drive an entire country insane, raise seas into the sky and create country-wide floods, and burn Albion black.

William Black and the Queen of Blades when fighting created mountains and flattened them to make valleys.

Fable is far more powerful.

An arrow will hurt you just like a gun and mages galore. The sheer darkspawn would be enough to crush these gun wielding english gents.

Hyperbole won't win you this argument. With what we literally see in the game fable gets routed. I think you could combine fable 1 and 2 and they still get crushed.

Not at all. You like fable more but come on look at the heroes and that in fable their abilities and the massive armies in dragon age and the demons and their powers. This would be a route.

I'd even venture to say fable 1+2+tp all together go down. That's how lopsided it is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'd even venture to say fable 1+2+tp all together go down. That's how lopsided it is.

Don't bring up Zelda. For the love of God, don't.

From what I'm reading, probably LoK.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You brought up the guild going down like nothing to a mere mob. That's not overtly impressive compared to how long the guild thrived in the fable verse.

An arrow will hurt you just like a gun and mages galore. The sheer darkspawn would be enough to crush these gun wielding english gents.

Hyperbole won't win you this argument. With what we literally see in the game fable gets routed. I think you could combine fable 1 and 2 and they still get crushed.

Not at all. You like fable more but come on look at the heroes and that in fable their abilities and the massive armies in dragon age and the demons and their powers. This would be a route.

I'd even venture to say fable 1+2+tp all together go down. That's how lopsided it is.

No, just no. Guns>>>>>>>>Arrows, there is a reason we do not use them anymore. Keep in mind that that was just one village, a bunch of guys with guns would crush the Darkspawn threat. 🙂

Absolutely none of what I said was hyperbole, the powers of the Court were directly stated, and they alone would be enough to CRUSH the Darkspawn threat. They were able to do what every Blight never has. Jack of Blades alone would crush the Darkspawn horde and kill the Archdemon, to say nothing of the piss weak humans.

Massive armies? The Darkspawn are the only massive army... And they were defeated by a much smaller force. 😐 Also, not really sure I like Fable more, and please stop trying to accuse me of bias, the only reason you are on this Dragon Age rant is because you really liked the game. It's a good game, just not a particularly power series, hell, it is not even the most powerful series Bioware has put out.

Ganondorf alone would crush all of Fereldan under his boot. As would Jack, or William Black with the Sword of Aeons, Dragon Age is weak.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
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Scream you're a god damned fool, and I love you.

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Don't bring up Zelda. For the love of God, don't.

From what I'm reading, probably LoK.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I did not mention the Guild. And yes a mob of citizens with guns was enough tot ake it down. Which is much more dangerous than a mob of weak-ass Darkspawn.

No, just no. Guns>>>>>>>>Arrows, there is a reason we do not use them anymore. Keep in mind that that was just one village, a bunch of guys with guns would crush the Darkspawn threat. 🙂

Absolutely none of what I said was hyperbole, the powers of the Court were directly stated, and they alone would be enough to CRUSH the Darkspawn threat. They were able to do what every Blight never has. Jack of Blades alone would crush the Darkspawn horde and kill the Archdemon, to say nothing of the piss weak humans.

Massive armies? The Darkspawn are the only massive army... And they were defeated by a much smaller force. 😐 Also, not really sure I like Fable more, and please stop trying to accuse me of bias, the only reason you are on this Dragon Age rant is because you really liked the game. It's a good game, just not a particularly power series, hell, it is not even the most powerful series Bioware has put out.

Ganondorf alone would crush all of Fereldan under his boot. As would Jack, or William Black with the Sword of Aeons, Dragon Age is weak.

Arrows kill and guns kill. Guns have the advantage but dragon age has them outnumbered like 20-1 minimum. They also have emissaries and mages who can hang back do damage and heal. Whoops.

We saw how these characters were portrayed in the game and we see nothing to even suggest any of these characters were anywhere near as fearsome as hyperbole with no direct proof of anything which directly happens on panel. That's like saying Jakc is unbeatable with the aeon sword and we see him get beaten right after he possesses it.

Jack of blades would get routed by the archdemon. The archdemon can take on armies while 4 characters in your party and hold it's own. When it gets intro trouble here comes the blight and his two generals. Poor jack of blades looks like the mask is getting destroyed this time.

The darkspawn were met by templars, dalish, redcliffe, dwarves, etc. and would have eventually won if not for taking out the archdemon. That's the whole point they cannot win unless they take out the archdemon because despite all these mini armies linking up they still cannot beat the darkspawn unless you take out the leader.

No, the reason is because the game was really, really powerful. I mean fable you yourself tried destroying claiming the guild is weak, just a few heroes and jack of blades to contend with.

Just for fun let me name some characters that'd rape all fable characters in no time flat. I mean the major characters not the entire armies.

Swiftrunner, Gatekeeper, Witherfang, Jarvia, Bhelen, Allistair, Wynne, Morgana, Sloth Demon, Desire Demon, Mabari, Duncan, Riordan, Teryn Loghain, Uldred, Archdemon, 2 darkspawn generals, Greagoir, Irving, Jowan, Tevinter Blood Mage, Sten, Zevran, Ogres, etc.

I mean this is just off the top of my head I mean at least name these supposed fable badasses and when we talk about the powers at these characters disposal and all the different sort of magic and enchantable powers it's a lopsided victory here.

No one in fable was as great of a military leader by any regards comparable to Teryn Loghain.

See when you say silly things like ganondorf when he'd get annihilated by just an army of darkspawn it makes you look bad.

Ganondorf can't even beat sages or a youn gchild with little to no experience. These are games with actual men, years of experience and massive armies just to eeek out a win not some kid with a horse and a sword. Please be serious for once in a while.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wow seems powerful and don't play pc games and it's strictly pc. I mean to play elder scrolls in the future. Diablo is another game I have never played.

Warcraft, Oblivion and Diablo would absolutely rape Dragon Age, yes also by themselves.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Time for your lesson then.

The reason they would have beaten the darkspawn then was simply because there was no archdemon present. When you give the darkspawn leadership they become a totally different animal than when they don't have direction.

Raziel is the same guy who gets tossed around like a toddler by Kain. Raziel is the same guy who failed against a possessed Hylden Lord Janos because he lacks the stomach to get what needs to be done.

Raziel would be absolutely demolished by the archdemon. The archdemon takes on armies while raziel has his hands full with single foes he isn't capable of dismantling huge armies while taking on the four party members you choose to battle against him.

Their armies aren't bigger by any stretch of the imagination. I mean look at the pathetic resistance offered by vorador and the cabal in part 2. They'd be mincemeat and their leadership is pathetic.

The only two major threats are the eg and Kain. Too much for these two to overcome.

Loghain, Arl Eamon, Greagoir, and Harrowmont/Bhelen, Witherfang,Uldred, Swiftrunner, Zathrian are just too much. You had loads of experience on this side as well maybe not as much as the thousands of Kain but it's just too much for him to overcome.

They could create masses upon masses of golems, werewolves, possessed mages through Uldred's guidance and this becomes drastically unfair.

Throw in the vampires weaknesses to water and they literally get routed.

I mean if the human beings could crush the vampires from this game mages, werewolves, golems, darkspawn, archdemon, templars, warriors, rogues, dalish, blood mages, fade demons, blight wolves and assassin groups all along with huge glaring exploitable weaknesses and this is just plain unfair.

Lok is mighty indeed but dragon age would eat them for breakfast. Kain goes down in glorious fashion.

Archdemon is useless, its not tactical or clever and its armies fell before the human remnants at the end of the game even with it present.

Kain would od the same to the Archdemon. Raziel would solo armies, the Archdemon could not without hit and run tactics through flight, as soon as it landed it was killed.

The cabal is the weakest and smallest vampiric organisation in the games iirc, Kain has his entire evolved race present in SR. Hell, one Dumahim fledling could arguably kill the armis of DAO.

😆 you listed weak, almost featless humans who would be killed by Sarafan soldiers, let alone vampires.

No they cant, those things dont get created out of thin air, Werewolves were specific and possessed mages are weaker than LoK usual wizards, let alone the circle who can warp life, death and space.

Hardly even a weakness, LoK is more technologically advanced, magically advanced, more nuimerous and so far physically superior that DAO has no chance.

Humans/Vampire hunters could beat the scattered tribes of vampires from BO era, thats it.....in the SR era, the weakest vampires force Raziel to find other less physical ways of killing them and humans are nothing but a joke/fun for vampiric children. (humans who use higher tech weapons than DAO.).

Originally posted by quanchi112
Swiftrunner, Gatekeeper, Witherfang, Jarvia, Bhelen, Allistair, Wynne, Morgana, Sloth Demon, Desire Demon, Mabari, Duncan, Riordan, Teryn Loghain, Uldred, Archdemon, 2 darkspawn generals, Greagoir, Irving, Jowan, Tevinter Blood Mage, Sten, Zevran, Ogres, etc.

No.

Just, no.

Please, never make an idiotic statement like this ever again

Originally posted by quanchi112
Swiftrunner, Gatekeeper, Witherfang, Jarvia, Bhelen, Allistair, Wynne, Morgana, Sloth Demon, Desire Demon, Mabari, Duncan, Riordan, Teryn Loghain, Uldred, Archdemon, 2 darkspawn generals, Greagoir, Irving, Jowan, Tevinter Blood Mage, Sten, Zevran, Ogres, etc.

... What? haermm

There is... NO WAY, you can be serious. haermm

I'll give you some characters on there are legit fairly powerful, but...

You think that friggin JOWAN could rape ANY Fable character!? 💃

I am sorry, but I can now never take anything you will ever say seriously again. 😂

You did before? 😐

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You did before? 😐

Originally posted by quanchi112
I should make that thread since this thread was created to pit me against bt.

Well you were responsible for the LoK vs LoZ thread that no one liked. Granted, they should have just left well enough alone but too late now I guess.

I'm disappointed that Quan never responded to this.

I guess that means that BT really is our top debater.

😖hifty:

Maybe he gathered his senses and realises a bunch of humans/GW's that he listed are not as powerful or as impressive as he would like to belive.

****ing JOWAN! 😂

Did not Jowan himself say he sucks?

LOL Jowan. Quan show just stay out of this thread.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Did not Jowan himself say he sucks?

Looking at his list again, he put Jarvia.

Lol Jarvia.