Originally posted by jinzin
Don't bother Carver, this ignoramous thinks Kenshiro can beat Frieza... that the possibility even exists.... There's no need to argue with that kinda thickness.
I think you should be more concerned about your reading.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I should have known it would take Bro Smash to make carver seem logical.
Everyone seems logical compared to you.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
I think you should be more concerned about your reading.
I need to be more concerned with my reading?
Lol... uh no, I've read everything you've written much to the dismay of my brain cells...
But I think you probably meant my reading COMPREHENSION.... since that's the only way this statement makes any sense. Either way... it's pretty rich coming from someone which as many errors as you've made in this thread alone. 😐
Originally posted by jinzin
I need to be more concerned with my reading?Lol... uh no, I've read everything you've written much to the dismay of my brain cells...
But I think you probably meant my reading COMPREHENSION.... since that's the only way this statement makes any sense. Either way... it's pretty rich coming from someone which as many errors as you've made in this thread alone. 😐
Obviously, you haven't read everything I said, that's why I said you need to work on your READING...and I mean period.
First lets start with you getting where I said that Kenshiro can beat Freiza. Please post where I said that (I don't want anybody else posting it either).
Originally posted by King Kandy
He removed the skin by hitting the pressure point on his chest with a steel beam. But before that he hit him over and over. And in any case, Kiba Daio is no Goku. Even as a kid he could resist bullets.
The steel beam didn't do anything at first. That's when Ken hit his pressure points with his fists. Only then the steel beam did something. Kiba is no Goku but that was pretty early in the series and Ken has gotten much stronger since then.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
The steel beam didn't do anything at first. That's when Ken hit his pressure points with his fists. Only then the steel beam did something. Kiba is no Goku but that was pretty early in the series and Ken has gotten much stronger since then.
Even if he gottent stronger that still doesnt prove that he can pierce someone like Kid Goku whos skin is much stronger than the skin of that being that he was trying to punch through but failed to do. He had to land multiple of licks to accomplish anything... he's not going to have that same luxury with Goku.
One punch from Goku should end the fight.
As for your hundred punch scenerio... here we have a holding back... playing around trunks... ripping through 6 henchmen and then one of them, he carve little pieces into his suit and from the front to the back and even cut his scouter. So basically he drew designs on his chest with his sword and numerous of squares out of his uniform and again, he did this in seconds, probably less. Lets not forget... Goku proved during his arrival back that he was> that trunks. I dont care about feats like that though... I want to see Ken combating with someone that also have super speed and both of them are moving their entire body at tremendous speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIrk6e_mufo
Then we have THIS... start at one minute... this is Goku vs the Ginyu force... Have a question by the way, do you honestly believe that Ken can solo the ginyu force like none super saiyan Goku did? Back to my post, we have Burta alone moving so fast that time stopped. With all that speed that Burta had (moving so fast that time itself STOPPED) he was still unable to tag or even TOUCH Goku. Lets not even bring up the fact that frieza and Goku have fight scenes where they did entire moves and combos while everything around them stayed still (time stopped) and I'm referring to black hair Goku. Ken doesnt stand a chance in hell at touching or let alone beating Goku.
This is Goku vs Ginyu force where, start one minute into the scene...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJhkMhnUR0
Here is Burta's speed feat... moving so fast that time stopped. Start 40 seconds.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
The steel beam didn't do anything at first. That's when Ken hit his pressure points with his fists. Only then the steel beam did something. Kiba is no Goku but that was pretty early in the series and Ken has gotten much stronger since then.
Originally posted by carver9
Even if he gottent stronger that still doesnt prove that he can pierce someone like Kid Goku whos skin is much stronger than the skin of that being that he was trying to punch through but failed to do. He had to land multiple of licks to accomplish anything... he's not going to have that same luxury with Goku.One punch from Goku should end the fight.
As for your hundred punch scenerio... here we have a holding back... playing around trunks... ripping through 6 henchmen and then one of them, he carve little pieces into his suit and from the front to the back and even cut his scouter. So basically he drew designs on his chest with his sword and numerous of squares out of his uniform and again, he did this in seconds, probably less. Lets not forget... Goku proved during his arrival back that he was> that trunks. I dont care about feats like that though... I want to see Ken combating with someone that also have super speed and both of them are moving their entire body at tremendous speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIrk6e_mufo
Then we have THIS... start at one minute... this is Goku vs the Ginyu force... Have a question by the way, do you honestly believe that Ken can solo the ginyu force like none super saiyan Goku did? Back to my post, we have Burta alone moving so fast that time stopped. With all that speed that Burta had (moving so fast that time itself STOPPED) he was still unable to tag or even TOUCH Goku. Lets not even bring up the fact that frieza and Goku have fight scenes where they did entire moves and combos while everything around them stayed still (time stopped) and I'm referring to black hair Goku. Ken doesnt stand a chance in hell at touching or let alone beating Goku.
This is Goku vs Ginyu force where, start one minute into the scene...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJhkMhnUR0Here is Burta's speed feat... moving so fast that time stopped. Start 40 seconds.
I already saw that fight numerous times. Still, none of that indicates that they're gonna touch a guy who's intangible.
Also, I already provided a video of Kenshiro fighting someone at superspeed. The reason Kenshiro doesn't move his entire body the whole time is because it's usually isn't needed. There have been at times where he has jumped high in the air and fought someone before hitting the ground but most of the time, such stuff isn't needed.
Originally posted by King Kandy
He hit Kiba Daios face, and then hit hi in the chest with the steel beam, while saying he had touched his breast pressure point, obviously it was the steel beam and not the punches. Regardless, the point still stands that immense durability does give some protection against Hokuto Shinken.
That must've been a translation error because he didn't hit him in the chest at all.
Also, durability MAY give some protection but as long hits still simulates a poke (whether it's an actual poke or a real strong hit), that person is still vulnerable to pressure point attacks.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
That must've been a translation error because he didn't hit him in the chest at all.Also, durability MAY give some protection but as long hits still simulates a poke (whether it's an actual poke or a real strong hit), that person is still vulnerable to pressure point attacks.
Nah. Pressure points may not require penetrating the skin, but you nonetheless do have to use enough force to affect it below the skin. Ever notice how for Amiba to hit the new pressure points he discovered, he would have to dig in very deep compared to Ken? Those points hadn't already been discovered, likely for that very reason that they were too far below the surface.
Toki explained how touching a pressure point hard will destroy, but pressing it lightly may have no effect at all, or even heal the person. So if the skin is tough enough, that sort of hard pressing isn't an option.
Bro Smash = thicker skull than Wolverine's.
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Originally posted by Bro SMASH
As for Freiza, that really depends on the situation. If Freiza decides to get serious, Ken would lose obviously but if Freiza toys around too much, it may not ever get to that point.
You think there's a possibility that Ken can beat Frieza.... you're delusional.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Sure he did. The metal beam, on the hit that finally hurt him, hit him in his torsoe.Nah. Pressure points may not require penetrating the skin, but you nonetheless do have to use enough force to affect it below the skin. Ever notice how for Amiba to hit the new pressure points he discovered, he would have to dig in very deep compared to Ken? Those points hadn't already been discovered, likely for that very reason that they were too far below the surface.
Toki explained how touching a pressure point hard will destroy, but pressing it lightly may have no effect at all, or even heal the person. So if the skin is tough enough, that sort of hard pressing isn't an option.
Yeah, the last one hit him in his torsoe however, not in even in the translation I got on DVD says that he hit him in the chest.
Like you said, there are certain pressure points to hit that would have a certain affect. Also, Amiba was much weaker than Ken and really didn't have much knowledge about Hokuto Shinken. Ken knew all the pressure points he hit while Amiba was basically "guessing".
I don't remember Toki saying that but he most likely meant for people like Raoh, as Ken have touched pressure points with very little force.
Originally posted by jinzin
Bro Smash = thicker skull than Wolverine's.Here:
You think there's a possibility that Ken can beat Frieza.... you're delusional.
Yes, a possibility. Even if it is a small one, it's still a possibility.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Yeah, the last one hit him in his torsoe however, not in even in the translation I got on DVD says that he hit him in the chest.Like you said, there are certain pressure points to hit that would have a certain affect. Also, Amiba was much weaker than Ken and really didn't have much knowledge about Hokuto Shinken. Ken knew all the pressure points he hit while Amiba was basically "guessing".
I don't remember Toki saying that but he most likely meant for people like Raoh, as Ken have touched pressure points with very little force.
Yes, a [b]possibility
. Even if it is a small one, it's still a possibility. [/B]
Frieza can stand still and let Ken hit on him all day with no effect. This is a guy that survived a planet explosion. Ken aint doing sh** to him.