Originally posted by Prep-Man
It wouldn't be spite, because some of the Weapon X members have done similar feats, like you said. I'm just saying she's the MVP for WS side.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Here is a description of her powers.
though if I am understanding her abilities correctly, her biggest threat might be the weakest member of team weapon x's fanthomx. actaully he could be a big threat to midnighter as well.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
What has Fantomex done that you think he could keep up with her?I really love Fantom, but stopped reading after Morrison's run.
I agree with Dugan here. X-23 is actually a big deal in this match.
The Wildstorm team can match Weapon X in skills and physical abilities, but a problem arises when healing factors are thrown in. People don't like to admit it, but a healing factor is one of the best abilities to have in a melee fight between meta level characters. It's why Wolverine/X-23/Sabertooth/etc are so dangerous.
Nearly every member of Weapon X has one, and it gives them a nice advantage.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I agree with Dugan here. X-23 is actually a big deal in this match.The Wildstorm team can match Weapon X in skills and physical abilities, but a problem arises when healing factors are thrown in. People don't like to admit it, but a healing factor is one of the best abilities to have in a melee fight between meta level characters. It's why Wolverine/X-23/Sabertooth/etc are so dangerous.
Nearly every member of Weapon X has one, and it gives them a nice advantage.
They might all have one, to some digree, I think even fantomex has nanites which repair his body similarly to a healing factor.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I don't he damage soak to high. They relatively mirror images of eachother in many ways physically, but wolverine has vastly superior damage soak in which Midnighter standard equiptment which is mostly blunted weapons would have hell of a time overcomming espcially before Wolverine stabs the shit out of him.
Midnighter has a healing factor of his own. It's certainly not on Wolverine's level, but add in the fact that Midnighter has redundant systems ( like extra back-up organs), and can turn off his pain receptors, and has ridiculous stamina to match, and the fact that he should be able to avoid a lot of Wolverine's blows thanks to his battle computer/superhuman reflexes/enhanced senses etc. He should have no problem hanging with Wolvie for quite a while. Midnighter has fought through various ailments before (broken limbs, neck, various contusions and puncture wounds, etc)
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I disagree. I like Fantomex a bit, but X-23 should kill him in a fight. Fanthomex is really could in certain senerio's and against certain people. He not overlly powerful he just has unique abilites.
Except he is a low-level telepath whose illusions can fool even the most experienced telepaths. X-23 is the weakest character to me because she is the most redundant; any strategy that will work against Sabretooth and Wolverine will work against her. He and Agent Zero are the only combatants on the Weapon X team not restricted by their reach, and he can read body language to assist him in a close-up fight.
You can't judge Fanotmex's usefulness by a one-on-one comparison, especially in a team battle.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Gamora had a tough time shutting her down, plus she has telepathy as well.
How good is her telepathy? Can it be used offensively? Any scans or issue numbers?
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
any strategy that will work against Sabretooth and Wolverine will work against her.
Wildstorm can match them for a while, but time isn't on their side.
Originally posted by Lunacyde
Midnighter has a healing factor of his own. It's certainly not on Wolverine's level, but add in the fact that Midnighter has redundant systems ( like extra back-up organs), and can turn off his pain receptors, and has ridiculous stamina to match, and the fact that he should be able to avoid a lot of Wolverine's blows thanks to his battle computer/superhuman reflexes/enhanced senses etc. He should have no problem hanging with Wolvie for quite a while. Midnighter has fought through various ailments before (broken limbs, neck, various contusions and puncture wounds, etc)
Originally posted by dmills
Yeah. Midnighter definately has the damage soak ability to hang for a looong time. Didn't he fight some guy while he had butcher knives inside of him lol?
Originally posted by StyleTime
Did Cybernary receive an upgrade? I still remember her being taken out by a spear stab from a random Coda warrior and being unable to outwrestle Savant. 131 I've never seen a display of telepathy, but you may know more about her than me.How good is her telepathy? Can it be used offensively? Any scans or issue numbers?
That is basically our point. Team Wildstorm lacks a reliable strategy for Wolverine. Adding Sabretooth, Laura, and Deadpool only worsens Wildstorm's situation. X-23's "redundancy" is actually what makes her a bigger threat in this instance.
Wildstorm can match them for a while, but time isn't on their side.
Even if we assume Midnighter would hang with Logan, his team still has to deal with similar problems. Laura, for example, literally had her torso torn wide open; despite the obvious set back, she continued fighting and healed her wounds in mere moments. Multiple Weapon X members are capable of similar feats. This is really an uphill battle for Wildstorm.
Yes, I believe so. She took down an army of Coda warriors and Garmora's children recently in the last year. She even hinted to Midnighter that he would have a hard time fighting her.
She was depowered by the Engineer, though.