Team Wildstorm Vs Weapon X · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Johnny Sorrow Silent actor

Originally posted by dmills
Why?

By default Holden will give back as good as he gets.

dmills Centurion Prime

Oh ok. Duh! You're saying it'll be worse for weapon x lol.

I was thinking along the lines of him being able to take care of the Logan problem. Midnighter may not be able to heal quickly enough to.

Lunacyde Lord of Logic

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What you were trying to do was draw parallels between Agent Orange beating the Grand Sarin and the absolute bottom of the barrel gutter filth of low ball Wolverine PIS showings which is DD long punching him in the throat... and no such parallels exist.
Grand Sarin was in half a dozen issues, all written by the same author, she beat Zealot and was subsequently killed by Agent Orange... and Joe Casey wasn't trying to make anyone look stupid.

No. The parallel I was drawing was that for whatever reason (Story in Zealot's case, Writer's dislike of the character in Wolverines) both characters lost to characters who were technically below them. If matched up in a Forum fight where no plot/writing is involved neither of them would have lost those matches. Hence the flawed reasoning behind your ABC logic.

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by dmills
I was thinking along the lines of him being able to take care of the Logan problem. Midnighter may not be able to heal quickly enough to.

This is what makes me side with Team X honestly. Wolverine is a fairly big problem for Wildstorm's team. Laura as well. With clever use of shields, Nemesis would fair much better against Wolverine than Midnighter; however, I don't see her beating him either.

Prep-Man Senior Member

I really think Midnighter can go toe to toe with Wolvie. Even make it an even split or edge to Mids.

dmills Centurion Prime

For the record so do I. However Carver will help to cut through the crap that the Logan fans will pull. They'll say he -Midnighter- can't recover fast enough from the damage Logan can dish out.

Prep-Man Senior Member

Originally posted by dmills
For the record so do I. However Carver will help to cut through the crap that the Logan fans will pull. They'll say he -Midnighter- can't recover fast enough from the damage Logan can dish out.

Is Carver apart of the regular WS verse?

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I really think Midnighter can go toe to toe with Wolvie. Even make it an even split or edge to Mids.

I don't he damage soak to high. They relatively mirror images of eachother in many ways physically, but wolverine has vastly superior damage soak in which Midnighter standard equiptment which is mostly blunted weapons would have hell of a time overcomming espcially before Wolverine stabs the shit out of him.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by dmills
They'll say he -Midnighter- can't recover fast enough from the damage Logan can dish out.

......by crap do you mean facts? Midnigher damage soak is not anything closes to Wolverines fact. Wolverine weapon out put is great, having the ability to cut limbs off, huge chunks of his body ect, while midnighters very limited in many ways for how much damage he can produce with each attack.

Prep-Man Senior Member

I think Mids will keep his distance for sure. His stamina is also crazy. Fighting with Zealot for hours. And Zealot is definitely Wolvie level.

Prep-Man Senior Member

BTW, Cyberanry is a beast. She's capable of taking anyone down on the Weapon X side.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I think Mids will keep his distance for sure. His stamina is also crazy. Fighting with Zealot for hours. And Zealot is definitely Wolvie level.

How will he keep his distances? He fights in melee.

But she does not posses any of his damage soak. It not that Mid Nighter won't give him a big fight, but wolverine level of damage soak is on a completely different level and his weapon offensive abilities are far greater then midnighters in damage output. He be doing more damage with every attakc he lands, while be able to wistand vastly more damage then mid nighter.

also midnighter stamina isent closes to wolverines. Wolverien has fought a days straight before.

thats not to say in anyway that midnighters stamina is not impressive, becuases it very impressive.

Prep-Man Senior Member

Midnighter is pretty quick. Wolvies not unbeatable and he's been beat before. Midnighter's ability to counter his moves will be the key to victory.

If Mids can't beat Wolvie, Cybernary will. She has healing and grade a weapons.

dmills Centurion Prime

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Is Carver apart of the regular WS verse?

Unless there's been a massive retcon the man's actions helped shape the current WS landscape.

Prep-Man Senior Member

Originally posted by dmills
Unless there's been a massive retcon the man's actions helped shape the current WS landscape.

What books did he appear in? Wildcats? Stormwatch?

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Midnighter is pretty quick. Wolvies not unbeatable and he's been beat before. Midnighter's ability to counter his moves will be the key to victory.
If Mids can't beat Wolvie, Cybernary will. She has healing and grade a weapons.

I never said he was unbeatable. One does not need to be unbeatable to beat midnighter. Midnighter has lost before, his ability is not an auto win. Many if not the majority of the scenerio's can have him losing. He can't make a scenerio happen, he can try. He ability is very overrated. He literally ahve to dodge everyone of wolverine attacks, and that just not gunna happen. Wolverine just as fast as him and midnighters weapons are very bad agaisnt wolverine, blunt force is not a great option espically when you strength level is not even above his own.

Yes, but wolveirne other members may be able to beat her. Wolverine not even the biggest threat on his team.

Prep-Man Senior Member

Cybernary is probably the biggest threat from either list. She's taken down an army of super humans unleashed by her father, single-handedly.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Cybernary is probably the biggest threat from either list. She's taken down an army of super humans unleashed by her father, single-handedly.

Wolverine did the same thing in the last issue of enemy of the state or it was the first issue of agent of shield.

Prep-Man Senior Member

These guys were able to take on the Authority, though. She was quite impressive doing it by herself. She's probably the most impressive living weapon I have seen.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Prep-Man
These guys were able to take on the Authority, though. She was quite impressive doing it by herself. She's probably the most impressive living weapon I have seen.

theses guys wolveirne killed took down shield hellicareer.

If she can take on the authority as a whole, and were talking legitment feat then why would you put her in this match up? wouldent you be purposely creating a spite?

or is that a feat she has but would never be able to reproduce in forum match. Becuase wolverine has taken on numerous teams of x-men, but I am not about to try and argue him beat them in forum match.