Dawkins sticks it to the Pope

Started by Digi4 pages

"Why can't you leave me alone?" doesn't exonerate your opinions. It's just an excuse to maintain your ignorance and harmful reasoning even in the face of a contrary argument.

Originally posted by inimalist
interesting speech... a little strange that he goes to pains to point out that atheism has nothing to do with the holocaust, but also emphasizes how much of a Catholic Hitler was.

It doesn't matter what religion Hitler was... lol

Well, Hitler is the go to argument for why atheism is bad. Then Stalin.

Originally posted by Digi
"Why can't you leave me alone?" doesn't exonerate your opinions. It's just an excuse to maintain your ignorance and harmful reasoning even in the face of a contrary argument.

Irony!

Not about you, he was just talking about how stupid people like that are.

Originally posted by Digi
"Why can't you leave me alone?" doesn't exonerate your opinions. It's just an excuse to maintain your ignorance and harmful reasoning even in the face of a contrary argument.
fine, i concede my dream of a perfectly fit, intelligent, healthy, warrior human race...

strange as in it was just a dream and not an argument.

can i keep the one wear i am a warrior angel in the after life living out my RPG game fantasies? 😐

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Ah big brother, here´s another one it´s all over youtube so you lot have probably found it already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0kFU7IfPM

YouTube video

Did anyone notice the funny sign language used for "Hitler", the woman on the left is signing, watch her when he says "Hilter" 🙂

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, Hitler is the go to argument for why atheism is bad. Then Stalin.

What about Mao or Pol Pot? Pol Pot banned all religion, why isn't he used in an anti-atheist argument?

Noone cares about Asianz!

yea dawkin's is the man.

a very intelligent and brave man.

religion and faith are for ignorant and the hypnotized whom coutenance falsehoods in order to make excuses and explain "the explainable" which for the most part can now be explained with evidence and proof.

the world would be a better place without religion and the god notion.

do you understand half of the words you used in that post? serious question.

Originally posted by AthenasTrgrFngr
do you understand half of the words you used in that post? serious question.

Pfft, you're asking him to explain the explainable.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Ah big brother, here´s another one it´s all over youtube so you lot have probably found it already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0kFU7IfPM

YouTube video

lol

Awesome. I thought he was going to commit a logical fallacy there at the beginning but he followed up to tied it in appropriately. I watched the video a second time to see what I was thining about and, alas, I can't figure out where it was that I thought he was going to commit the strawman logical fallacy.

Good stuff. I like this guy. I agree on all of his points.

Originally posted by AthenasTrgrFngr
do you understand half of the words you used in that post? serious question.

Well I havent got a clue what "Ignaminious expedient" at 0:38 means to be honest, the rest was ok.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, Hitler is the go to argument for why atheism is bad. Then Stalin.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
What about Mao or Pol Pot? Pol Pot banned all religion, why isn't he used in an anti-atheist argument?

Noone cares about Asianz!

Indeed.

Though Pol Pot really isn't in the same league as the other three.

Originally posted by King Castle
only b/c he hasnt taken science courses to explain how each method is a viable and accurate indicators...

again ppl need to be told more then just "no it isnt" they need to be shown and walked through it. some ppl just dont have the patients to teach them from an elementary lvl and up and others dont have the patients nor desire to listen or learn.

hence, ppl like myself and various others we have the intellectual capacity to be doctors, lawyers, physicist but we have other interest hence, we dont care and lack the education required for us to make informed thoughts/opinions....

I certainly wouldn't want someone without the intellectual capacity to know the difference between "patients" and "patience" as my doctor.

Originally posted by King Castle
fine, i concede my dream of a perfectly fit, intelligent, healthy, warrior human race...

strange as in it was just a dream and not an argument.

can i keep the one wear i am a warrior angel in the after life living out my RPG game fantasies? 😐

The way you frame your question makes me look like the villain. You're the one who espoused stripping people of basic freedoms, though I enjoyed the delightfully misleading spin you tried to put on it (Fit! Intelligent! Healthy! Who wouldn't want such things!). If anyone missed the discussion, go back and check Castle's first post on this subject...it's f--ing creepy.

Also, an RPG whatever-the-hell is clearly just a fantasy, and has nothing to do with religious or cultural convictions. If we're just talking about daydreams and vague wishes, then why are you discussing them here in the first place? It's a waste of everyone's time. I'd love to have superpowers, but I don't talk about that in a religion forum like it's a serious possibility.

The "utopia" however was not a fanciful daydream. You flat-out said you'd impose those restrictions on people if you were in charge. That I will not allow you to "keep" (meaning, I will not leave it unchallenged). Random crap like being an angel I couldn't care less about. It wouldn't affect me, the world, other people, etc.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Noone cares about Asianz!

Well, they don't have souls, so why would we?

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Originally posted by Digi

Well, they don't have souls, so why would we?

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Gingers do have souls....

Oh wait...You meant Asianz

Ok...they don't.

Some of them have hot chicks though.

Originally posted by jaden101
Gingers do have souls....

Oh wait...You meant Asianz

Ok...they don't.

Some of them have hot chicks though.

Which is why it's ok to do them in the butt.

fdog

Originally posted by Digi
Which is why it's ok to do them in the butt.

fdog

Thank God...Cos I never ask for permission.

Originally posted by AthenasTrgrFngr
do you understand half of the words you used in that post? serious question.

read it slower, i guess.

and i hope the pope heard the man too. or hears of the speech.

i'm all for the fall of catholicism. i'm all for the fall of all religion but that's not gonna happen anytime soon. hopefully with oncoming and inevitable technological advances more and more'll be revealed in the form of actual evidence which'll in turn slowly but surely melt away false diety beliefs. facts cannot be refuted i don't care how faithful you are.

i hope i get to see the evolution in my lifetime.

just taking a moment to cosign "science and technology wont destroy belief and religion"