Originally posted by Galan007
In Godhunter #1 Bill did in fact beat (as in KO) 'dust.
Hmm .we cant really tell whether stardust is actually completely koed or not tho. All we see is bill knock dust down to the planet. then ram him again, and then begin going to town on him with repeated hammer blows afterwhich stardust mentions that bills blows cant slay him (so he still wasnt koed after all those shots). Bill then initiates the plan tp destroy the planet, hits dust again and then flies away Its pretty hard to tell if stardust was actually koed given that stardust facial features dont really offer up much assistance in that regard.
Originally posted by Naija boyit's not that hard to tell. Dust wasn't KOed.
Hmm .we cant really tell whether stardust is actually completely koed or not tho. All we see is bill knock dust down to the planet. then ram him again, and then begin going to town on him with repeated hammer blows afterwhich stardust mentions that bills blows cant slay him (so he still wasnt koed after all those shots). Bill then initiates the plan tp destroy the planet, hits dust again and then flies away Its pretty hard to tell if stardust was actually koed given that stardust facial features dont really offer up much assistance in that regard.
Originally posted by tkitnaI assumed you were talking about Sentry when you mentioned 'second rate Superman'.
Why bring up the Sentry? Nobody mentioned him in this thread.Yes, Black Adam is a different beast. He's inferior to Sentry in every possible way, but thats pointless in this thread.
We dont know if he's more powerful than Bill (I dont think he is), and yes, he's a second rate Superman.
Better in every way.
You didn't answer the question.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I assumed you were talking about Sentry when you mentioned 'second rate Superman'.
I'm not surprised your assumption was incorrect.
You didn't answer the question.
I did answer the question. I stated that Adam wasnt versatile enough to win a fight against Stardust. Beta Ray Bill has other options other than being purely a brick.
Galan stated that Bill beat Stardust physically in Godhunter #1, but now people are debating that saying Stardust wasnt KO'd (Bill used his Hammer too by the sounds of it) so i'm still not sure if physical means can put Stardust down.
Originally posted by Naija boyStardust was lying motionless and did not even attempt to pursue Bill. So unless you think he just let Bill get away (which would make no sense) then he had to have been incapaciteted in some way/shape/form.
Hmm .we cant really tell whether stardust is actually completely koed or not tho. All we see is bill knock dust down to the planet. then ram him again, and then begin going to town on him with repeated hammer blows afterwhich stardust mentions that bills blows cant slay him (so he still wasnt koed after all those shots). Bill then initiates the plan tp destroy the planet, hits dust again and then flies away Its pretty hard to tell if stardust was actually koed given that stardust facial features dont really offer up much assistance in that regard.
Originally posted by tkitnaUsually when people say 'second rate Superman', they're talking about Sentry. Honest mistake.
I'm not surprised your assumption was incorrect.I did answer the question. I stated that Adam wasnt versatile enough to win a fight against Stardust. Beta Ray Bill has other options other than being purely a brick.
Galan stated that Bill beat Stardust physically in Godhunter #1, but now people are debating that saying Stardust wasnt KO'd (Bill used his Hammer too by the sounds of it) so i'm still not sure if physical means can put Stardust down.
Beta only needed raw physical might.
Did you read the comic?
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Did you read the comic?
I did not. If you read the thread you would know that.
I stated that if Bill actually took out Stardust physically, I would reconsider my position, but now people are debating that Stardust was even KO'd.
I'll say it again, if Stardust can be KO'd by physical force, i'll lower the majority to 8/10 in Stardusts favor.
Star Dust wasnt physically koed during that battle... he might was stunned by there isnt any evidence that stardust was koed. As for the bill comment... in my eyes bill is> possibly>>Black Adam going by feats. The guy destroyed two planets in one comic physically... there is no evidence that black adam have that kind of strength... durability... Black adam was in the heart of a sun that was going super nova and didnt even know it or feel it. His body suffered no type of damage and again, black adam does not have these type of feats. Output of power... this isnt even debatable... Bill>>>>>Adam, versatility wise. So with you all bringing up Bill showings against Stardust is irrelevant since Black Adam isnt Bill.
As for the fight... Star Dust wins 8 or 9/10 and I dont even know how Adam is winning the 2 that I gave him.
Originally posted by carver9
Star Dust wasnt physically koed during that battle... he might was stunned by there isnt any evidence that stardust was koed. As for the bill comment... in my eyes bill is> possibly>>Black Adam going by feats. The guy destroyed two planets in one comic physically... there is no evidence that black adam have that kind of strength... durability... Black adam was in the heart of a sun that was going super nova and didnt even know it or feel it. His body suffered no type of damage and again, black adam does not have these type of feats. Output of power... this isnt even debatable... Bill>>>>>Adam, versatility wise. So with you all bringing up Bill showings against Stardust is irrelevant since Black Adam isnt Bill.As for the fight... Star Dust wins 8 or 9/10 and I dont even know how Adam is winning the 2 that I gave him.
I meantg gto say that beta ray bill sat in the heart of a sun while it was going super nova with no effect.
Originally posted by Galan007Is hard to say Stardust was motionless we say one panel where BRB hits stardust and blows a chuck of rock... there was no way of telling what affect this had on bill.
Stardust was lying motionless and did not even attempt to pursue Bill. So unless you think he just let Bill get away (which would make no sense) then he had to have been incapaciteted in some way/shape/form.
Considering he survived a full on assault from BRB prior to that it would see that this didn't put him down.
Why would Stardust follow BRB when his task was to locate planets for Galactus once that planet was destroyed instead of chasing after him he went to find another planet and that's exactly what was shown when Stardust is on I'Than prime which was suppose to be Galactus second lunch.
Originally posted by Galan007
Stardust was lying motionless and did not even attempt to pursue Bill. So unless you think he just let Bill get away (which would make no sense) then he had to have been incapaciteted in some way/shape/form.
We see him lying motionless in the panel just after bill hits him down to the planet as well. But even then we see he is conscious as he goes on to endure another barrage of bills blows and still tell bill that his blows cant slay him. Considering therefore that we see an identical situation in which stardust was certainly conscious, just a few moments rior, we cant assume with any degree of certainty that stardust was actually koed. Moreover, characters are at times knocked down and take more than a panel to get up even when they arent completely koed. That single panel is too inconclusive for such a determination.