Originally posted by Galan007
^ I'm not saying Bill could have slayed/killed Stardust. I'm not even saying that Stardust was KO'd for a great length of time.I'm just saying that since Stardust knew Bill intended to harm Galactus, it would be illogical and completely out of character to assume that he just laid there and let Bill get away to carry out his plans, unless he was (albeit momentarily) incapacitated.
I'll agree with you that Stardust was incapacitated during Godhunter, but Bill only edged Stardust out due to circumstances. Stardust is definitely his peer. Twice they've fought and in both Stardust was distracted by Skuttlebutt's interference which gave Bill an edge. And had the first fight continued without Asteroth's meddling, SD could conceivable wear out BRB or sent him into cosmic hell. In Godhunter, SD's first assault was holding Beta Ray back until Skuttlebutt's interference. His second attack knocked Beta Ray brief out I think but his boastful self left an opening for Bill to capitalize on. The follow up shot from Stormbreaker weakened SD further. Had SD just blasted him Bill repeated he could've pulled off a win. But the natural of SD is his arrogance while Bill is just a relentless beast that will resort to almost anything to put his opponent down. It seemed to me Stardust was down but not out from Bill's attack. By that point, SD lacked then power to get up, especially with Bill pressing down on him, and he felt Bill couldn't destroy him or Galactus. And really he wasn't expecting Bill to nuke the planet and run hence commented that Bill couldn't slay him let alone Galactus.
As for this fight, Black Adam most-likely isn't winning this. He's ruthless sure and would beat SD around while SD blabbed about how beneath him BA is. Nevertheless, Stormbreaker took the brunt of SD's attack and redirects it back. Teth possess not such ability; he's going to feel the brunt of every attack. Eventually, Teth is going to be worn down and put down.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I'll agree with you that Stardust was incapacitated during Godhunter, but Bill only edged Stardust out due to circumstances. Stardust is definitely his peer. Twice they've fought and in both Stardust was distracted by Skuttlebutt's interference which gave Bill an edge. And had the first fight continued without Asteroth's meddling, SD could conceivable wear out BRB or sent him into cosmic hell. In Godhunter, SD's first assault was holding Beta Ray back until Skuttlebutt's interference. His second attack knocked Beta Ray brief out I think but his boastful self left an opening for Bill to capitalize on. The follow up shot from Stormbreaker weakened SD further. Had SD just blasted him Bill repeated he could've pulled off a win. But the natural of SD is his arrogance while Bill is just a relentless beast that will resort to almost anything to put his opponent down. It seemed to me Stardust was down but not out from Bill's attack. By that point, SD lacked then power to get up, especially with Bill pressing down on him, and he felt Bill couldn't destroy him or Galactus. And really he wasn't expecting Bill to nuke the planet and run hence commented that Bill couldn't slay him let alone Galactus.As for this fight, Black Adam most-likely isn't winning this. He's ruthless sure and would beat SD around while SD blabbed about how beneath him BA is. Nevertheless, Stormbreaker took the brunt of SD's attack and redirects it back. Teth possess not such ability; he's going to feel the brunt of every attack. Eventually, Teth is going to be worn down and put down.
I fully agree. Wow, how did I miss that comic arc.
Originally posted by Galan007
What exactly did I 'dodge'? I replied to a previous post of yours, you responded with the exact same argument as before (which didn't address the points I mentioned with anything new) -- and since I loathe circular debates, I opted to stop our discussion when I saw this trend form.In a nutshell: since your argument hadn't changed at all, my response(s) to it would have been the exact same as before. But if you would like me to copy/paste my former post again, I'd be more than happy to.
...Or you can keep being pissy. Either way. 🙂
Your "reply" to my previous post didnt address anything that was stated in it. Heck looking at ur poor reply i doubt u even read it. U simply attempted to dismiss it. Dodge right there. Moreover when i then pointed out why the "points" u mentioned were invalid (which in the minds of most people doesnt consitute dodging), u didnt attempt to defend them or justify them. U just started pointing out other irrelevant things like the length of my posts. lulz. Dodge right there....and a pathetic one.
The argument hadnt become circular, u would have to at least not dodge every post and attempt to defend some of ur points for that to happen. Pity ur incapable of that.
P.S if u think copying and pasting ur posts is a more effective method of debating than the sad effort ur already giving, go right ahead.... i just feel for the rest of the board that will have to deal with all that spam. 😉
Originally posted by psycho gundamIf Stardust would have been able to pursue Bill (especially after finding out his plans to starve Galactus), he would have. Nothing contradicts that.
but you must remember: galactus was beckoned to feed on that planet in which bill destroyed, and since surfer was busy pursuing bill, stardust just went to find a new planet and succeeded.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingI agree -- never argued any of that.
I'll agree with you that Stardust was incapacitated during Godhunter, but Bill only edged Stardust out due to circumstances. Stardust is definitely his peer. Twice they've fought and in both Stardust was distracted by Skuttlebutt's interference which gave Bill an edge. And had the first fight continued without Asteroth's meddling, SD could conceivable wear out BRB or sent him into cosmic hell. In Godhunter, SD's first assault was holding Beta Ray back until Skuttlebutt's interference. His second attack knocked Beta Ray brief out I think but his boastful self left an opening for Bill to capitalize on. The follow up shot from Stormbreaker weakened SD further. Had SD just blasted him Bill repeated he could've pulled off a win. But the natural of SD is his arrogance while Bill is just a relentless beast that will resort to almost anything to put his opponent down. It seemed to me Stardust was down but not out from Bill's attack. By that point, SD lacked then power to get up, especially with Bill pressing down on him, and he felt Bill couldn't destroy him or Galactus. And really he wasn't expecting Bill to nuke the planet and run hence commented that Bill couldn't slay him let alone Galactus.
My only point is that based on what we saw/know, Stardust was incapacitated after Bill's final strike. I don't see how it can be viewed any other way, tbh.
Originally posted by Naija boy😂
Your "reply" to my previous post didnt address anything that was stated in it. Heck looking at ur poor reply i doubt u even read it. U simply attempted to dismiss it. Dodge right there. Moreover when i then pointed out why the "points" u mentioned were invalid (which in the minds of most people doesnt consitute dodging), u didnt attempt to defend them or justify them. U just started pointing out other irrelevant things like the length of my posts. lulz. Dodge right there....and a pathetic one.The argument hadnt become circular, u would have to at least not dodge every post and attempt to defend some of ur points for that to happen. Pity ur incapable of that.
P.S if u think copying and pasting ur posts is a more effective method of debating than the sad effort ur already giving, go right ahead.... i just feel for the rest of the board that will have to deal with all that spam. 😉
It always makes me laugh when people throw out insults on a comic book discussion forum, in an effort to try and make others look bad. It's a sad and rather childish tactic that ultimately makes you look like an arrogant "you know what" (just ask Mr M.) Don't fall into that cycle, Naija.
Originally posted by Galan007
It always makes me laugh when people throw out insults on a comic book discussion forum, in an effort to try and make others look bad. It's a sad and rather childish tactic that ultimately makes you look like an arrogant "you know what" (just ask Mr M.) Don't fall into that cycle, Naija.
Interesting... you know what makes me laugh? when people are so sensitive that they get offended by imaginary and self manufactured insults they perceive on the interwebz.😂. I didnt insult u, *sigh*, actually reading the posts would solve so many problems......
P.S- heh, still have a bit of animosity towards Mr M eh? ah well u might wanna get that sorted out. Not good for the system my friend
Originally posted by Starscream M
naija, you do have a tendency to resort to childish insults when confronted in a debate...
Actually starscream.....the only tendency i have is to insult YOU ( and from personal experience u shud clearly see that i did no insulting here.lol) in particular and its certainly not in a "debate" cuz u dont know the meaning of the word.. Moreover im hardly the only one on this board who has fun pointing out ur routine mental lapses so i really dont feel too bad about that.heh
Originally posted by Naija boyPretty sure you just proved Starscream's point. Take a chill pill. 🙂
Actually starscream.....the only tendency i have is to insult YOU ( and from personal experience u shud clearly see that i did no insulting here.lol) in particular and its certainly not in a "debate" cuz u dont know the meaning of the word.. Moreover im hardly the only one on this board who has fun pointing out ur routine mental lapses so i really dont feel too bad about that.heh
Originally posted by MindsetI hate you. uhuh
Shut up Galan, you big fat jerk face.
Originally posted by tkitna👆
Thanks for the scansSure looks like Stardust was incapacitated. It seems to me that Galactus was pissed and sent Surfer after Bill. I would think Galactus would have sent Stardust too if it was able. Who knows.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Actually not even. Ridiculing starscream is something i do with a smile on my face. 🙂 Aside that ive thrown no insults in this thread. Heck the "argument" wasnt even heated.
Also everyone knows that insulting Brucie doesn't count, he's a freebie.
