Originally posted by Starscream M
he's hung with the friggin Justice League despite being the only one without any powersnuff said
same arguement could be made for friggin robin green arrow, or clint barton ect.
please don't insult my intelegence with shitty ass arguement like this, it rather pathetic.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
yea I dont get why everyone been assuming that despite it never being stated, but I can see why you think that based on a lot of people responses.well you be dead wrong. Both DD and Wolverine have feats of skill to match batman and in some cases more impressive ones. also based off Logan powerset and skill combind it be a shit load harder to hang with him in melee range then Batman.
Kraven meta human, but yes Dick is more skilled, more of a threat in h2h? debatable. Dick is not on DD level. DD feats easily match Batmans own. You are soorely under playing DD.
i think you're wrong, but it doesn't matter. as i said, not going to get in to it.
i'm talking about pure skill, though. not effectiveness in melee combat.
i am not underplaying dd. at all. dick is just THAT good.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i think you're wrong, but it doesn't matter. as i said, not going to get in to it.i'm talking about pure skill, though. not effectiveness in melee combat.
i am not underplaying dd. at all. dick is just THAT good.
that really doesent matter though when concering who each fought. It be harder to fight Wolverine in melee then Batman (requardless of who you think is more skilled)
except he can't match DD feats of skill. yes you are. You don't even realises that DD is on Batmans level.
for example has Dick ever defeated Batman with a single attack?
DD defeated Captain America with a single attack before.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I can prove my side by matching any and all of batman feats, so I don't really care if you think I am wrong, becuase if we debated it I guarantee I come out right.that really doesent matter though when concering who each fought. It be harder to fight Wolverine in melee then Batman (requardless of who you think is more skilled)
except he can't match DD feats of skill. yes you are. You don't even realises that DD is on Batmans level.
for example has Dick ever defeated Batman with a single attack?
DD defeated Captain America with a single attack before.
If you say so.
Except that Batman is smarter, and makes up for shortcomings in melee by being more well rounded.
Yes, he can. He can match several of Batman's too. You're underselling Dick here. Big time.
Don't go off-topic, dude.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganlol you condescedning little punk!
That doesent make him more skilled.same arguement could be made for friggin robin green arrow, or clint barton ect.
please don't insult my intelegence with shitty ass arguement like this, it rather pathetic.
ok, batman knows one hit kills
batman knows nerve points
batman has fought CL100s and survived
batman has gone through gauntlets of tough enemies
batman has trained in more arts than logan has heard of
batman has beaten shiva
Originally posted by -Pr-
If you say so.Except that Batman is smarter, and makes up for shortcomings in melee by being more well rounded.
Yes, he can. He can match several of Batman's too. You're underselling Dick here. Big time.
Don't go off-topic, dude.
again we were discussing melee fights. what does being more well round have to do with anything? (unless your talking more well rounded melee, fighter becuase again you be quite wrong).
how am I off topic by bringing ip an event that DD did that Dick never be able to match? Again prove dick on that level.
Originally posted by Starscream M
lol you condescedning little punk!ok, batman knows one hit kills
batman knows nerve points
batman has fought CL100s and survived
batman has gone through gauntlets of tough enemies
batman has trained in more arts than logan has heard of
batman has beaten shiva
as does every top tier MAer
as does ever top tier MAer
as has ever top tier MAer
as have ever top tier MAer
that is complete and utter lie. Please don't just state lie's it rather pathetic.
wolverine beaten DD, shang-chi captain america ect.
we should probly take this pm, this is getting off topic, and this is match up I actually like.
experiences against training by one of the best.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
if you want go look at the old wolverine vs batman thread, there even one about skill. Me and batdude uses to go at it. We came realization that they are quite equal in skill.again we were discussing melee fights. what does being more well round have to do with anything? (unless your talking more well rounded melee, fighter becuase again you be quite wrong).
how am I off topic by bringing ip an event that DD did that Dick never be able to match? Again prove dick on that level.
saying "i'm right and you're wrong" isn't debating dude.
because neither dd nor dick are in this fight.
This match is so intrigueing because it shows what to individuals can do with certain training they recieved by taking it to anti-hero level.
Jason Todd shows just what happens if some one who been trained by Batman can do, if they float into the grey area.
Frank shows just what special opt training amoung many other military training can do when they decide to take the law into there own hands.
it really such an intrigueing match up from so many angles. Gun fight, traps, knife fight, h2h. This fight is pure gold from every level.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganhow are there traps?
This match is so intrigueing because it shows what to individuals can do with certain training they recieved by taking it to anti-hero level.Jason Todd shows just what happens if some one who been trained by Batman can do, if they float into the grey area.
Frank shows just what special opt training amoung many other military training can do when they decide to take the law into there own hands.
it really such an intrigueing match up from so many angles. Gun fight, traps, knife fight, h2h. This fight is pure gold from every level.
also, if guns are allowed then Jason Todd should win...he's more skilled
Originally posted by -Pr-
saying "i'm right and you're wrong" isn't debating dude.because neither dd nor dick are in this fight.
but they were being brought up to decide skill level of the two in the thread. It actually is on topic for us to debate which is more skilled becuase it shows which character actaully has the superior feat.
Dick a DD light in many ways.
I love Dick, dont get me wrong. I believe he the best Robin and easily the most skilled h2h. I think his cis really effects his preformances a lot of times.
Originally posted by Starscream M
um I know wolverine would beat batman as wellthats because wolverine has insane HF, adamantium bones, and claws
I said batman is more SKILLED...not that he would beat wolverine in a fight.
Originally posted by Starscream M
how are there traps?also, if guns are allowed then Jason Todd should win...he's more skilled
prove he more skilled espicially sinces Frank has far more experiences with guns.