Originally posted by Black bolt z
He wouldn't even touch him.Meaning odin could just stare at him until goku dies.No need to use movement. Tanking hits from thor>>>>>everything hoku did in a fight with freiza.
You say some ridiculous sh**. Show me thor hitting someone with the amount of force that frieza hit goku with THEN you would have an argument. Stop blurting stuff outg and debate foreal. You say some of the most weirdest crap sometimes. Prove your case... show me thor creating visible shockwaves with his punches or explosions with his punches... if not sthu.
Why didn't odin smile at thanos and destroy him or thor, or every othrer character that he fought? There you go again, blurting sh** out.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Sure.But that would take quantifying.For example thanos had tanked hit from thor who I believe has superior strength to an SS2.You believe BH goku has much stronger.Thus we can debate but still wouldn't be able to agree
Noooo, it would be very easy. Goku creating explosions and destroying large hills with just the force of his punches. Picollo being cloud height while goku is on the ground and goku punching at him while on the ground and the force from his punch hitting picollo in the face. Output of power, this isn't even debatable, goku feats are far better. Speed... not even debatable.
What makes you believe that thor is a fraction of gokus strength when he can't even match punching power feats from someone who is much weaker than a super saiyan. Let me guess what you are going to say "yes he is" PROVE IT.
Originally posted by carver9What makes you believe that thor is a fraction of gokus strength when he can't even match punching power feats from someone who is much weaker than a super saiyan. Let me guess what you are going to say "yes he is" PROVE IT.
Where the **** is Rage when you need him?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes. What has SS3 Goku done that puts him in the same class as Surfer?
Something is wrong with you... super saiyan 3 goku should be able to one shot surfer which would lead to him exploding from the force of impact. The thing about people on kmc is that they are in denial... they do not want to follow the scale that akira put in place. Abc logic IS a dbz tool because it has been proven from the beginning that the higher you power level the more powerful you are.
A good place to start with the abc logic is when roshi... a being with a power level of 100 destroyed a moon... now by the frieza saga we have people in the millions. Start from there.
Originally posted by carver9
Something is wrong with you... super saiyan 3 goku should be able to one shot surfer which would lead to him exploding from the force of impact. The thing about people on kmc is that they are in denial... they do not want to follow the scale that akira put in place. Abc logic IS a dbz tool because it has been proven from the beginning that the higher you power level the more powerful you are.A good place to start with the abc logic is when roshi... a being with a power level of 100 destroyed a moon... now by the frieza saga we have people in the millions. Start from there.
And in the Frieza saga the characters still couldn't straight up bust a planet...
To say nothing of the fact that Silver Surfer has a thousand ways to defeat the Saiyans, like removing the oxygen around them for one.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol at this wanking. No character in DBZ is one shotting Surfer.And in the Frieza saga the characters still couldn't straight up bust a planet...
To say nothing of the fact that Silver Surfer has a thousand ways to defeat the Saiyans, like removing the oxygen around them for one.
Wow... I guess you are using the instance where frieza tried to destroy planet namek...lol. well let me help you out omega... before this happened goku hit frieza with the spirit bomb...WELL after getting free from it, guess what frieza say when he is standing on that rock before killing krillin "me escaping that ball took ALL of my energy". The spirit bomb taxed him... so wouldn't you feel safe to say that a frieza that is depleted of his energy shouldn't be able to destroy a planet?
Originally posted by carver9
Wow... I guess you are using the instance where frieza tried to destroy planet namek...lol. well let me help you out omega... before this happened goku hit frieza with the spirit bomb...WELL after getting free from it, guess what frieza say when he is standing on that rock before killing krillin "me escaping that ball took ALL of my energy". The spirit bomb taxed him... so wouldn't you feel safe to say that a frieza that is depleted of his energy shouldn't be able to destroy a planet?
Oh... I almost forgot... we have a frieza that was at 1% of his power splitting planet name into 1/3 with just 2 fingers . Then we have piccolo... someone who have on panel feats of reading power levels stating that frieza could destroy the planet namek in an instant.
The thing about your silver surfer comment is that we have ships damaging him... making him flee (happened during the beta ray bill saga TWICE) but we have people like nappa that could generate far more force than any ship.
Originally posted by kgkg
People really think DBZ character can beat someone like Surfer?
It depends... if cis is on... sure since surfer wouldnt use the energy drain right off the bat and you really can't say that would work against a true dbz character since we don't know the amount of energy he would be absorbing... goku along other z fighters have a huge amount of energy. The question is... who is the most powerful person surfer has drained?
I can see a super saiyan over powering surfer and please don't use the matter manipulate power as an option because numerous of characters in dbz have this ability and know not to use it because its pointless... some that come to mind is piccolo, debora, king ki, supreme ki, and there could be others.
Originally posted by carver9
You are seriously underating a saiyan. Surfer have too many showings of people doing good against him that wouldnt even register as a threat to goku for me to believe that goku wouldn't beat him.
What are you going to bring up Black Panther now?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
And here comes the lowballing...What are you going to bring up Black Panther now?
Vision for one... vision stalemated the surfer.
As for your comment in the other thread about gokus strength... goku as a child has feats of being a high class 100 then let's not even iclude kid goku throwing king piccolo into a buiding which completely turned a couple of stories building to rubble or him outright throwing someone that weighed a ton completely out of a city ot him touching a 12 ft tall guy sending him flying at least a mile... again, from a touch... or him moving a boulder that was the size of a house or goku after fighting junior picking up a 80 ft tall piccolo and tossing him while overpowering his leg strength... or him after the tourny punching a tank across the desert.
Goku admitted that raditz was more powerful than him.