Blaster bolts in SW are basically energy bullets. You can even hear them, so I'd wager that they travel at around the speed of sound.
Originally posted by SamZED
While I agree Spider-man stands no chance in the first scenario, Mace is not faster nor has better reflexes and one solid punch from Spider-man IS deadly for him.
Originally posted by Starscream M
Spider-Man has NO shot of winning. None. Zilch. Nada.I dare anyone to differ.
Shit, I'll dare.
For starters, that video, while flashy and possibly impressive to the casual viewer, is pretty much meaningless upon objective reasoning because, as we all know, the Separatist's Battle Droids are notoriously, and comically, inept in combat. All that video really shows is that Mace is competent enough to wade through a batallion of bumbling idiot robots that have no agility, adaptive reasoning, or awareness beyond their commands, and just continue shooting and marching in the general direction of their target until they are either disabled or kill their target. Roger, roger on that shit.
Secondly, all those uses of offensive Force displayed in that video won't be available to him in scenario #1, so while he retains his speed and striking power, all the displays of Force Telekinesis won't be included as evidence.
Thirdly, where are Mace's feats against a competent opponent? You can arguably say his fight with Palpatine/Sidious counts, however, an argument can, and by many has, been made that Palpatine threw that fight simply to put Anakin in a position where he'd have to choose between the Jedi and himself (as Sidious was deceiving Anakin into believing that only he could teach him the Force techniques he would need to save Padme's life). More evidence that lends credence to this viewpoint is the subsequent fight Palpatine had with Yoda just an act later in which he was FAR more formidable of an opponent than the wimpering display he was versus Mace. Then there's Jango Fett, who pretty much just stood there and shot at a charging Mace after he had been trampled by a giant alien rhino beast thing and then Mace decapitates him, so that doesn't really count. General Grievous?
Mace just force crushed his rib cage (which is inadmissible in scenario #1). Mace never fights Dooku or Asajj Ventress to my knowledge so there's nothing there to show what he would do against an opponent with some actual ability. Honestly, there really isn't much to go on besides his raping of a bunch of inept idiot robots.
Roger, roger.
So while scenario #2 may seem like it's pretty much a no brainer that Mace would win (though those are not the stipulations I specified in the voting thread), scenario #1 is far from a stomp because Mace, by and large, is a featless wonder versus a competent opponent.
Originally posted by Starscream M
"Because the bolt traveled at faster-than-light speeds, targets could show signs of damage before the visible portion of the bolt hit. This was because the visible portion, as well as most of the heat, was a side-effect of the actual, lethal bolt." from star wars tech commentaries
Using this explanation, Han Solo has ftl reflexes as he dodged a shot from a blaster that travelled across a table (Episode IV with Greeno).
I'm gonna have to call shenanigans on that.
Originally posted by illadelph12oh come on...are you really going to apply a ironfist rule of consistency to a universe?
Using this explanation, Han Solo has ftl reflexes as he dodged a shot from a blaster that travelled across a table (Episode IV with Greeno).
comics is filled with even more inconsistency regarding speed.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Using this explanation, Han Solo has ftl reflexes as he dodged a shot from a blaster that travelled across a table (Episode IV with Greeno).I'm gonna have to call shenanigans on that.
Nah, in the original cut Solo shot first, he doesn`t dodge at all. It was later changed to be more PC.
Originally posted by Starscream M
also, just thinking logically...why would such advanced tech folks resort to weapons that would be slower than bullets?it makes no sense
And besides within the Star Wars Universe slug-throwers (bullet based firearms) are popular among outlaws because unlike blasters they can't be blocked by lightsabers.
Originally posted by Starscream M
"Because the bolt traveled at faster-than-light speeds, targets could show signs of damage before the visible portion of the bolt hit. This was because the visible portion, as well as most of the heat, was a side-effect of the actual, lethal bolt." from star wars tech commentaries
Amazing Spider-man V1 336
Going by that I could claim Spidey moves his entire body at ftl speed. Plus his webbing is still faster than him, so it moves at ftftl speed.
I can also see Spider-Man taking Mace's lightsaber from him in a similar manner to how Cad Bane took Ahsoka's sabre.
And before people flame me about "Ahsoka isn't Mace!" I'll reply that Cad Bane also isn't Spidey. 😛
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Going by logic why is a robot army using firearms at all against living creatures instead of just gasing them?
Originally posted by Starscream M
because gassing might be dangerous to organic forms who aren't targeted. and often times, the robot army may have organic allies.
And often times their missions are semi-genocidal to start with. So I don't see how gassing would be a bad idea for the Seps.
